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Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by contravariant »

jandrese wrote: post #26
tmkadamcz wrote: post #10

By the way, Sci-Hub has stopped adding new articles to the database for a few months now (background: https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/mk46x4/scihub_v_els... ). It would be great to develop a truly decentralised solution. Having a database of individual torrent links for each paper might be a start.

Millions of individual torrents is not a great solution. Keeping them all seeded is basically impossible unless they run a seed for each one, at which point they might as well just host the files. Plus you'll never get the economy of scale that makes BitTorrent really shine. When you have a whole lot of tiny files that people will generally only want one or two of there isn't much better than a plain old website. A t…

There was that project some guy posted a while back that used a combination of sqlite and partial downloads to enable searches on a database before it was downloaded all the way. If you can fit PDFs somewhere into that you'd be golden.

Or just use IPFS I suppose.

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by Azrael3000 »

tmkadamcz wrote: post #10

By the way, Sci-Hub has stopped adding new articles to the database for a few months now (background: https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/mk46x4/scihub_v_els... ). It would be great to develop a truly decentralised solution. Having a database of individual torrent links for each paper might be a start.

Thanks for the background link. I did not know about that and it's a good incentive to donate them some money for the legal battle.

TL;DR of the link: No more uploads to support a court case in India which SciHub might win and thus establish a legal basis for operation in the biggest democracy.

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by kortilla »

HideousKojima wrote: post #17
tmkadamcz wrote: post #10

By the way, Sci-Hub has stopped adding new articles to the database for a few months now (background: https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/mk46x4/scihub_v_els... ). It would be great to develop a truly decentralised solution. Having a database of individual torrent links for each paper might be a start.

Torrents are great and all but it's dependent on people seeding them, sci-hub/libgen is great because you don't have to worry about a download suddenly breaking because no one is seeding

But they could just always be a seeder. Doesn’t that have the upsides of the existing solution plus resiliency?

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by posterboy »

jandrese wrote: post #26
tmkadamcz wrote: post #10

By the way, Sci-Hub has stopped adding new articles to the database for a few months now (background: https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/mk46x4/scihub_v_els... ). It would be great to develop a truly decentralised solution. Having a database of individual torrent links for each paper might be a start.

Millions of individual torrents is not a great solution. Keeping them all seeded is basically impossible unless they run a seed for each one, at which point they might as well just host the files. Plus you'll never get the economy of scale that makes BitTorrent really shine. When you have a whole lot of tiny files that people will generally only want one or two of there isn't much better than a plain old website. A t…

a plain old website or a publishing house with distribution services and syndication attached, but for a sane price.

"a whole lot of tiny files" severely underestimates the scale at work. Libgen's coverage is relatively shallow, and pdf books tend to be huge, at least for older material. Scihub piggy backs on the publishers, so that's your reference.

syndication, syndicate, quite apt don't you think? Libraries that coluded with the publishers and accepted the pricing must have been a huge part of the problem, at least historically. Now you know there's only one way out of a mafia.

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by andyxor »

Azrael3000 wrote: post #32
tmkadamcz wrote: post #10

By the way, Sci-Hub has stopped adding new articles to the database for a few months now (background: https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/mk46x4/scihub_v_els... ). It would be great to develop a truly decentralised solution. Having a database of individual torrent links for each paper might be a start.

Thanks for the background link. I did not know about that and it's a good incentive to donate them some money for the legal battle. TL;DR of the link: No more uploads to support a court case in India which SciHub might win and thus establish a legal basis for operation in the biggest democracy.

when donating bitcoin make sure to get the address from the official scihub mirrors, which are currently sci-hub.do, sci-hub.st or sci-hub.se.

there are some unaffiliated "mirrors" that only redirect to scihub but list their own bitcoin address for donations, so beware.

/r/scihub on reddit keeps track of this https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/wiki/index

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by Reason077 »

beermonster wrote: post #15

Just setup a VPN on some cheap cloud provider. There are lots of sites UK ISPs block even though the sites themselves are not illegal or host illegal content. For e.g. torrent indexing services (the content itself may be illegal but purely providing a search across that content is basically doing what Google do). The UK internet is heavily filtered/censored and so doing this is useful anyway. Business ISP connections…

My UK ISP (one of the major UK mobile networks) does not block sci-hub. They do block torrent sites such as Pirate Bay, etc.

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by vbezhenar »

kickout wrote: post #34
joelthelion wrote: post #21

There's a telegram bot that sends you the papers you ask for. It's by far the most convenient way to use scihub.

Do you have a link or example for, uh, science? Lol

Google sci hub telegram bot returns me @scihubbot as the first results. You might want to try it out.

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by kortilla »

lapinot wrote: post #30
beermonster wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This only works if your ISP is using/abusing/hijacking DNS to censor your connections. If they're doing that you'd be better off using D-o-T or D-o-H, to protect your DNS from interference.

ISP rarely do anything else than DNS censoring (censoring by ip blackholing is for really grave stuff). Also i don't understand why you'd be "better off" using encrypted connection to a 3rd party DNS which can still lie to you. Just run a local resolver, it's so lightweight there's no real reason not to. (and honestly, the hypothetical delay isn't noticeable)

A 3rd party is better because it can be hosted in some other country not subject to local fascism du jour you have to deal with from your ISP.
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