I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
They have their place in hell next to the quad bike owners,who think it's ok to use them in urban areas. None of them are cool, only complete douches.
Quads do no harm, bit less co2 than a car, bit more exposure to the elements. Buying two vehicles is considerably less eco. More noisy than electric but better range and more fun. If you can't appreciate other people having fun, of course, it's lose, lose.
It is fun until you live next to a trail that becomes a quad highway in the weekend. I used to and I was really looking forward to the electric quad revolution. That would leave only the dust for us to suffer which, somehow is less distressing than the noise.
I get the point of loud engines being fun in a teenager kind of way but they are so un-fun to everybody else that we should strive to look for and provide some other fun things to replace it.
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#123Very eye-catching - reminds me of Akira.
I assume those silver cylinders are battery cells? It would be interesting to see lithium ion cells being exposed like this as a design choice, like muscle cars sometimes expose part of the internal combustion engine as a way to center the power of the vehicle.
Also based on the scope of this project, I assume that must be a known cell form-factor, but I had assumed most applications were using commodity 18650's unless otherwise constrained.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
They have their place in hell next to the quad bike owners,who think it's ok to use them in urban areas. None of them are cool, only complete douches.
Quads do no harm, bit less co2 than a car, bit more exposure to the elements. Buying two vehicles is considerably less eco. More noisy than electric but better range and more fun. If you can't appreciate other people having fun, of course, it's lose, lose.
I think you missed OP's reference to "urban areas". People who blast though densely populated neighborhoods on quads (usually "sport" models with obnoxious exhausts) generally have no regard for anyone around them. This is a very different scene compared to someone riding in the woods on one.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a very strange justification for having an obnoxiously loud vehicle. If you want to be seen wearing bright leds.
It wouldn't help. There's literally nothing that can be done to get a cager's attention, if they're distracted. I've had to knock on windows, to prevent people from merging into me. Loud pipes, hi-viz clothes, horns. Nothing helps. People are just too self absorbed to pay attention. You people see cops (sometimes) and vehicles bigger than yours and that's about it.
Perhaps treating the other road users as people instead of derogatory terms like cagers would help. In addition, choosing a mode of transport which is literally 20 times more lethal per kilometer than driving is your responsibility. You can always choose to be a ‘cager’.
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#126Lots of pearl clutching in here lol.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hi-viz doesn't work though. I use to look like a walking highlighter, I might as well have been invisible. Put on aftermarket exhaust and people know I'm there. The difference in behaviour was crazy.
Sorry, I don’t understand why you’re downvoted, because that’s kinda interesting. Has someone wrote the sound also don’t help in many cases so that could indicate that many aren’t paying enough attention while driving or we’re lacking some way to make bikers visible (both motorcycles and bicycles).
Aftermarket exhaust and slight left/right swerving movements beats hi-viz. The swerving is meant to catch the eye's attention in the side mirrors.
Many people also drive with earphones on so whatever external noises they hear is debatable. I'm betting most bikers will agree that hi-viz alone doesn't guarantee that you're visible.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nothing brings out my violent psychotic tic faster than an asshole with a loud vehicle.
Road rage is a terrible thing, nothing brings out intolerance like a metal cage. Try to abstract it, see road rage as a thing in itself, don't let it in. If you get there, all of a sudden you don't mind what or how other people drive. If you don't get there, it's only you that suffers. That tic can't express itself in your self-imposed cage.
Being a pedestrian I get the raging tic for loud vehicles easily without any metal cage assistance. And sure I try to not get annoyed by their insane noise pollution and disruption of pleasant conversations or enjoyment of sound in a large radius. But fundamentally I believe that as the driver of an unnecessarily loud vehicle you* are an arsehole.
*you as in the driver, I am aware that the parent poster is not necessarily driving a loud vehicle.
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#129My friend bought a Zero electric motorcycle. A lot of fun and definitely has zip. Very quiet and makes almost no noise. He can hit a top speed of about 140km/hr but can not stay at that speed a long time due to battery overheat. It has a range of about 90km but their are bigger battery packs available for a price. The charging is slow and takes about 10hrs but again for a price you can pick up a fast charger which cuts down charge time greatly. Yes it is a fun bike but ultimately the range and speed ability plays a factor in usefulness of the bike. When I ride with him I constantly have to make sure I don't take off ahead or lose him. Also with a range of 90km you really can't go far. A trip out to the lake 30km away becomes sketchy if there is no power source out there to charge.
For me a good electric bike would have a range of at least 200km and include any fast charging with the base model.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
They have their place in hell next to the quad bike owners,who think it's ok to use them in urban areas. None of them are cool, only complete douches.
Quads do no harm, bit less co2 than a car, bit more exposure to the elements. Buying two vehicles is considerably less eco. More noisy than electric but better range and more fun. If you can't appreciate other people having fun, of course, it's lose, lose.
"people having fun" on quads have no place in the city, same with scooters with aftermarket exhausts. Especially when they go as fast as they can at 3am.