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Post by tut-urut-utut »

sterlind wrote: post #75
runlevel1 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could it not be fixed by updating the bank account name?

you have to update your social security card first. it's doable, but it's a whole chain of paperwork and documents. I transitioned 5 years ago and I still haven't really updated my legal name.

But isn't legal name official name?

I mean, I can claim my name is whatever I like, but when the police pull me or a bank clerk ask me for an ID to identify myself before withdrawing the money, what stays there would be something different.

I am surprised that in the USA one is even allowed to present himself in the official context by the "non official" name. Is changing a legal name there so complex? Yes, it's a lot of work to change all documents, but does it really take five years?

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Post by podgaj »

filleduchaos wrote: post #113
djmashko2 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of uses for Twitter unrelated to debate or discussion. Sharing news, building a community, posting about your day, etc.

Not just that, there are plenty of debates and discussions that don't need every single one of the billions of people on this planet as potential participants. The people who decry changes like being able to restrict who can reply to you as "eroding discussion" don't seem to realise that what they're actually saying is "either you commit to listening to/engaging with random total strangers yelling whatever they want…

>there are plenty of debates and discussions that don't need every single one of the billions of people on this planet as potential participants.

But WHO decides that? It is just like here on Hacker News, you cannot down vote until you have 500 upvotes? I may have a new novel idea or frame of reference that could benefit the world but I get downvoted on everything I say it never gets out.

So who decides? The one's in control of the platform. And that is horrible. Look at the trouble the woman who invented the mRNA vaccine went through!

Re: Tip Jar

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Post by podgaj »

dkarras wrote: post #56

Wonder if / how this will change people's sharing behavior. A common scenario like: People like to do X for free (status, virtual points) but if a way to get paid while doing so is introduced, the dynamics change. People that don't get paid much (overall, or relatively compared to their peers) feel bitter even though the outcome is exactly the same as before but they get discouraged, stop sharing, stop doing it for f…

Money will always change people's behavior. And I have never seen a time it changed it for the better, unless they were giving it away.

Re: Tip Jar

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Post by noxer »

I'm not even using twitter and I know that the crypto community has a bunch of coins and twitter bots [1] that implement tipping way way better and also likely did this years ago.

The key part of making it better is that everyone can receive tips with these systems you dont need a payment provider that matches or in fact you dont need one at all.

Ofc you cant cash out without but you can tip what you got to others. The same "dollar" can move around to hundreds of people like that without any PayPal or whatever in between that would suck it up by removing fees.

[1]For example xrptipbot.com also cross platform and works on reddit and discord too.

Re: Tip Jar

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Post by podgaj »

pjc50 wrote: post #108
TeeMassive wrote: post #72

> Tip Jar is an easy way to support the incredible voices that make up the conversation on Twitter. This is a first step in our work to create new ways for people to receive and show support on Twitter – with money. I hope this will create an incentive for people to be less partisan and divisive and look for donators outside of their algorithmic bubble.

Rage is monetizable. The entire talk radio ecosystem exists on this basis, as do many political Patreons. And the people that got banned from Patreon.

Yes, this. The delusion that greed, or the love of money, will always benefit society is a neoliberal myth.

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Post by mavhc »

capableweb wrote: post #116
captn3m0 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instagram stories (and IG in general) has been functional on the mobile web for more than 3 years: https://www.pcmag.com/news/post-instagram-stories-from-the-m... .

> Instagram stories (and IG in general) has been functional on the mobile web for more than 3 years Maybe that's geo-locked? When I visit instagram.com and log in I can only consume content, I cannot upload anything, normal posts nor stories. Edit: I realize now you said "mobile web" while I was thinking "web" in general and visit from my desktop. Seems weird it works on 1/2 of the web versions they have...

At one point in time the hack to upload from the desktop was to make your window narrow so it though it was a phone.

Re: Tip Jar

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Post by jtrip »

lottin wrote: post #84

I don't feel like tipping someone for making an observation or a joke. This means turning a conversation into an economic transaction. Is this where the world is going? Pathetic.

There is a huge community of artists, podcasters, video content creators who can now use this to ear an income from the public.

I don't think this feature is only for conversations, though it will effect them. How? I can only speculate.

Re: Tip Jar

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Post by jtrip »

pjc50 wrote: post #109
55555 wrote: post #67

Onlyfans strangely not mentioned. I see a lot of people on twitter with viral tweets shilling their onlyfans

Bingo. This is going to get used for sex work, and then Twitter will have to either act surprised and ban a whole swathe of users or embrace it and face condemnation from the religious right.

There is a thriving art community that shills their NSFW art and services on twitter through fan engagement and community building. Through this clout they shill their Patreons and only-fans.

I don't think their behavior will change. This image and text only non-realtime format is not conducive unlike twitch and only-fans.

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Post by rlplatte »

globular-toast wrote: post #99
viraptor wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me clarify - I meant a class of issues usually described that way, but spelled out it's "members of the team have little direct or indirect contact with people impacted by higher privacy needs, who are quite often global or context-specific minorities or people commonly exposed to abuse that impacts them". I wish we had a unique name for it because it keeps repeating online, and is often shortened the way I comme…

Literally everyone I've ever spoken to about privacy has been a man. What the hell are you talking about?

Indeed, the most vocal privacy advocates have always been the now ostracized bearded Unix loving male oppressors like Stallman.

The SJW types have always been quite ... flexible in these matters if a corporation waves with a wad of cash.

Re: Tip Jar

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Post by nasmorn »

anonytrary wrote: post #74
rawtxapp wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand /r/cryptocurrency introduced "moons" as tipping mechanism and the quality of the discussions went downhill really quick. Nowadays, there's lots of sob stories or random posts about how a person just bought in to some random coin, personal anecdotes, etc. I think whatever tipping is implemented needs to be pretty much worthless (aka mostly symbolic), otherwise, people will just spend a lot of their t…

I, too, have noticed this in /r/cryptocurrency. Lots of posts that are just obviously trying to farm moons with generic popular opinions. Meanwhile, the mods are getting a salary in moons. Really interesting stuff, for sure. Back in the dogecoin days, this wasn't an issue because it was purely for the memes. Sending someone a few thousand doge as a meme tip cost you a few dollars at most, and that point the karma was…

Like giving someone tulips as a present in 1637 and then finding out there is a tulip mania and had you grown new ones from the seeds you would be a millionaire. Some things never change.
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