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Re: Tip Jar

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Post by brown9-2 » Fri, May 07, 2021, 10:16 AM UTC

erulabs wrote: post #6

I think it’s quite smart to launch this sans-crypto to avoid headlines, ensure the feature works well and is received well, and then add additional payment methods weeks or months later. I do wonder if this hurts or helps twitter as a product tho - I can’t say I’ve been enjoying the recent “only so-and-sos friends can reply to this post” trend. But now we will see very popular tweets with no discussion allowed that i…

> But now we will see very popular tweets with no discussion allowed that is also earning money from sycophants?

Then unfollow those people

Re: Tip Jar

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, May 07, 2021, 10:27 AM UTC

kypro wrote: post #104

mahathu wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's a deadname?

It's the name a transgender person used to be know by prior to their transition. It's highly offensive (to some at least) and refering to someone by their "deadname" is considered grounds for a permanent ban on a number of silicon valley services.

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Re: Tip Jar

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Post by filleduchaos » Fri, May 07, 2021, 10:31 AM UTC

djmashko2 wrote: post #25

erulabs wrote: post #6

I think it’s quite smart to launch this sans-crypto to avoid headlines, ensure the feature works well and is received well, and then add additional payment methods weeks or months later. I do wonder if this hurts or helps twitter as a product tho - I can’t say I’ve been enjoying the recent “only so-and-sos friends can reply to this post” trend. But now we will see very popular tweets with no discussion allowed that i…

There are plenty of uses for Twitter unrelated to debate or discussion. Sharing news, building a community, posting about your day, etc.

Not just that, there are plenty of debates and discussions that don't need every single one of the billions of people on this planet as potential participants.

The people who decry changes like being able to restrict who can reply to you as "eroding discussion" don't seem to realise that what they're actually saying is "either you commit to listening to/engaging with random total strangers yelling whatever they want at you or you shouldn't say anything at all". In my opinion that silently stifles far more speech than the alternative.

Re: Tip Jar

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Post by filleduchaos » Fri, May 07, 2021, 10:36 AM UTC

davidblue wrote: post #66

davidblue wrote: post #65

Just want to point out: As it is implemented currently , the “Tip Jar” is literally just a list of hyperlinks. Clean hyperlinks, even. If you need a handy example for trying it out: I’m @NeoYokel I entered every link except CashApp because I don’t have that. (DO NOT PAY ME. This is not a sly attempt to get you extremely wealthy hn readers to send me unsolicited cash.)

CORRECTION: The Venmo link is not clean. Here’s the tracking meta (which is revealing lol): ‘ txn=pay&amount=1.00&note=Spaces ‘

Yes, it's pretty revealing that Twitter sends the details of your transaction to the platform you intend to make the transaction on.

Re: Tip Jar

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Post by capableweb » Fri, May 07, 2021, 10:51 AM UTC

pcthrowaway wrote: post #77

anonytrary wrote: post #53

I remember in 2017 in /r/dogecoin, we would tip each other thousands of doge (back then, it was 1/10th of a penny) for "such many random and much wow comment in forum". This was achieved with a DOGE tipping bot. This idea will most likely work if Twitter starts supporting it as a first class feature. And maybe it will encourage people to speak about things that are valuable. Or maybe it will continue to encourage the…

Not sure if you remember what happened with that. The creator of dogetipbot held the money that wasn't withdrawn, then eventually froze withdrawals and absconded with a possible fortune (they claimed they were burning it to pay for ridiculous server costs, but I can't imagine running it would cost more than $20/week unless it was horrendously misconfigured)

> but I can't imagine running it would cost more than $20/week unless it was horrendously misconfigured

Oh boy do I have news for you! Todays technology evangelists always starts a new product with at least three instances running three docker containers each, on expensive EC2 instances where you even pay for the bandwidth that should be free. Doesn't matter if you've found a product market fit first, engineers will read the latest Medium posts and implement things before thinking if they really need it.

I've stopped counting the number of times I've seen over-engineered systems simply because developers just jump around implementing stuff they seem fit without actually researching things.

So yes, probably most of the infrastructure you visit today could have been more lightweight, but that's not what the people implementing said infrastructure aims for.

Re: Tip Jar

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Post by capableweb » Fri, May 07, 2021, 10:54 AM UTC

captn3m0 wrote: post #91

paxys wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It makes sense when you consider that all the successful services they are copying (Instagram, Snapchat, Clubhouse) are app-only.

Instagram stories (and IG in general) has been functional on the mobile web for more than 3 years: https://www.pcmag.com/news/post-instagram-stories-from-the-m... .

> Instagram stories (and IG in general) has been functional on the mobile web for more than 3 years

Maybe that's geo-locked? When I visit instagram.com and log in I can only consume content, I cannot upload anything, normal posts nor stories.

Edit: I realize now you said "mobile web" while I was thinking "web" in general and visit from my desktop. Seems weird it works on 1/2 of the web versions they have...

Re: Tip Jar

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Post by weezin » Fri, May 07, 2021, 11:09 AM UTC

fnord77 wrote: post #50

> Tip Jar is an easy way to support the incredible voices that make up the conversation on Twitter. The conversation is mostly snarkiness and trolling. I really hope we don't start rewarding that with cash.

"What do you do for a living?" I dunk on people for tips on twitter.

Re: Tip Jar

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Post by pvorb » Fri, May 07, 2021, 11:27 AM UTC

At the same time, YouTubers get rich just by creating content. Tipping won't help that much.

Re: Tip Jar

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Post by podgaj » Fri, May 07, 2021, 11:31 AM UTC

Wow, this is the end of Twitter. Everyone looking to make money will fill the platform up with garbage.

Neoliberalsim is turning you all into beggars.

Re: Tip Jar

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Post by podgaj » Fri, May 07, 2021, 11:36 AM UTC

erulabs wrote: post #6

I think it’s quite smart to launch this sans-crypto to avoid headlines, ensure the feature works well and is received well, and then add additional payment methods weeks or months later. I do wonder if this hurts or helps twitter as a product tho - I can’t say I’ve been enjoying the recent “only so-and-sos friends can reply to this post” trend. But now we will see very popular tweets with no discussion allowed that i…

It hurts. It most certainly hurts. Everyone will evolve into the most perfect beggar. Yes, it will possibly be a slow devolution than what happened at YouTube, but it will happen.

Twitter is bad enough without easy money involved. People call it public commenting, but it's not. Not if you can block some one or limit why sees your tweets. Just another curated self to expose to the world, and the money, as I said, will only make not worse.