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Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet

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Please ignore the trolls, ramblings, and especially the newly created accounts. The current ruling party in India has an IT cell that tries to shape opinions online irrespective of the platform.

Congress recruiting over 500,000 'social media warriors'

https://in.news.yahoo.com/congress-to-hire-5-lakh-social-med...

Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet

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Half of them are true. The rest is exaggerated. Both sides hold extreme opinions about this matter. To be clear I don't hate muslims / christians but the expansionist attitude of few religions. I believe Savarkar's Hindu Atheist ideology, for all his faults, is the way forward for India. The problem as seen by many right-leaning people is that girls of other faiths (Hindu/Christian) date with low-status-but-high-pret…

> A COVID19 superspreader event was an Islam religious event which also villain-ized them more in the eyes of majority. This has been called very strongly by the supreme court as malicious and politically motivated and government supported propaganda. > like high sounds in mosques Those last 2 to 3 minutes each and aren't on in the night. Hindu celebration pandals violate noise norms for weeks at stretch playing loud…

>> Those last 2 to 3 minutes each

They are on EVERY day of the year, 5 times a day and start at 5 am. Festivals aren't daily. Why hide that fact?

That said, I would like to see no loudspeakers used in residential areas at all - by anyone.

Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet

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post #119

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> A COVID19 superspreader event was an Islam religious event which also villain-ized them more in the eyes of majority. This has been called very strongly by the supreme court as malicious and politically motivated and government supported propaganda. > like high sounds in mosques Those last 2 to 3 minutes each and aren't on in the night. Hindu celebration pandals violate noise norms for weeks at stretch playing loud…

>> Those last 2 to 3 minutes each They are on EVERY day of the year, 5 times a day and start at 5 am. Festivals aren't daily. Why hide that fact? That said, I would like to see no loudspeakers used in residential areas at all - by anyone.

Not hiding. I expected this to be common enough knowledge that it did not require further elaboration.

I am bothered more by the pandal loudspeakers because they disrupt night sleep for multiple stretches of a week at a time. Ajaans are not aired during my sleeping hours so they don't bother me (except for the 5 am one at times). Neither do church bells. There are many mosques around where I stay, thankfully they seem to obey noise ordinances that pandals do not.

In contrast there is always some festival every month with a pandal and there goes my sleep for a week.

Totally agree that noise ordinances should be uniformly applied. Same applies to construction noise.

Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet

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I agree with most of your points. However, I'm interested in knowing - what are the valid reasons for Islam propagation in India?

Half of them are true. The rest is exaggerated. Both sides hold extreme opinions about this matter. To be clear I don't hate muslims / christians but the expansionist attitude of few religions. I believe Savarkar's Hindu Atheist ideology, for all his faults, is the way forward for India. The problem as seen by many right-leaning people is that girls of other faiths (Hindu/Christian) date with low-status-but-high-pret…

Interreligious marriage is a very tiny fraction of indian marriages, and actually works in both directions. This concern is a recently invented bogey man that has no basis in reality. The real demographic challenge for India is the backward northern states reproducing at a rate higher than the progressive southern states. However, there is absolutely no media focus on this issue. It is hilarious to watch north Indian hindus bully some Muslim from kerala (pakistani, child producing machines, Somali etc), when north Indian Hindus have a much higher fertility than them.

Attar is a fragrance, that several Hindus also use. Maybe you should check if the person applying it is hindu or Muslim before generalizing .

The so called super spreader event was organized before the lockdown, at about the same time as modi Trump rally involving more than 100K people. Instead of locking down the mosque, the administration forced everyone out of the mosque to help spread covid outside the mosque all over India! The media is absolutely silent about various hindu temple superspreader events being held such as the khumbu mela. Nobody is clutching their pearls.

The land owning muslims moved to Pakistan and the Indian muslims primarily occupy a lower socio economic class. The so called appeasement that one hears about all the time is never actually spelt out in clear detail. It is taken as an article of faith. Congress appeasement of Hindus, such as in the case of ram mandir or hindu joint family tax exemptions are conveniently ignored.

Yes indeed, Modi is a smarter version of Trump.

Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet

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Hinduism made India the most racist country in the World; https://archive.is/mPsqz

Casteism is worse than Racism; Casteism = Racism + Slavery;

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_(Hinduism)

Let us give Brahmin a separate country; They're just 3% in India; https://archive.is/8JsAm

Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet

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Any pointers to the wording of the law itself? I cant appear to find it on a govt website yet.

How about https://www.meity.gov.in/writereaddata/files/Intermediary_Gu... Keep scrolling for the English translation Ref: https://www.meity.gov.in/content/gazettes

Thank you!!

Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Half of them are true. The rest is exaggerated. Both sides hold extreme opinions about this matter. To be clear I don't hate muslims / christians but the expansionist attitude of few religions. I believe Savarkar's Hindu Atheist ideology, for all his faults, is the way forward for India. The problem as seen by many right-leaning people is that girls of other faiths (Hindu/Christian) date with low-status-but-high-pret…

Interreligious marriage is a very tiny fraction of indian marriages, and actually works in both directions. This concern is a recently invented bogey man that has no basis in reality. The real demographic challenge for India is the backward northern states reproducing at a rate higher than the progressive southern states. However, there is absolutely no media focus on this issue. It is hilarious to watch north Indian…

Seconding the statement that attar/itar is a traditionally made fragrance, usually essential oils from various sources. Before perfume and deo industries penetrated the Indian market they were used universally by those who could afford it - they are and were quite expensive.

Displeasure with attar is just a thinly veiled feelings of hatred towards members of another religion.

Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet

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post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interreligious marriage is a very tiny fraction of indian marriages, and actually works in both directions. This concern is a recently invented bogey man that has no basis in reality. The real demographic challenge for India is the backward northern states reproducing at a rate higher than the progressive southern states. However, there is absolutely no media focus on this issue. It is hilarious to watch north Indian…

Seconding the statement that attar/itar is a traditionally made fragrance, usually essential oils from various sources. Before perfume and deo industries penetrated the Indian market they were used universally by those who could afford it - they are and were quite expensive. Displeasure with attar is just a thinly veiled feelings of hatred towards members of another religion.

No hate / disrespect intended. When there are many Muslim citizens in public transport etc.. the smell is pretty strong and intolerable. Not so much in urban areas but many times in rural areas. That said we both love in different places of India so have different exposures to reality. And I don't like bajrang dal stuff / loud music during festivals either. I was just explaining the parent commenter the general attitude towards muslims.

Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Half of them are true. The rest is exaggerated. Both sides hold extreme opinions about this matter. To be clear I don't hate muslims / christians but the expansionist attitude of few religions. I believe Savarkar's Hindu Atheist ideology, for all his faults, is the way forward for India. The problem as seen by many right-leaning people is that girls of other faiths (Hindu/Christian) date with low-status-but-high-pret…

Interreligious marriage is a very tiny fraction of indian marriages, and actually works in both directions. This concern is a recently invented bogey man that has no basis in reality. The real demographic challenge for India is the backward northern states reproducing at a rate higher than the progressive southern states. However, there is absolutely no media focus on this issue. It is hilarious to watch north Indian…

> The so called super spreader event was organized before the lockdown, at about the same time as modi Trump rally involving more than 100K people. Instead of locking down the mosque, the administration forced everyone out of the mosque to help spread covid outside the mosque all over India! The media is absolutely silent about various hindu temple superspreader events being held such as the khumbu mela. Nobody is clutching their pearls.

Indeed. I was just explaining general attitude against muslims.

Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interreligious marriage is a very tiny fraction of indian marriages, and actually works in both directions. This concern is a recently invented bogey man that has no basis in reality. The real demographic challenge for India is the backward northern states reproducing at a rate higher than the progressive southern states. However, there is absolutely no media focus on this issue. It is hilarious to watch north Indian…

> The so called super spreader event was organized before the lockdown, at about the same time as modi Trump rally involving more than 100K people. Instead of locking down the mosque, the administration forced everyone out of the mosque to help spread covid outside the mosque all over India! The media is absolutely silent about various hindu temple superspreader events being held such as the khumbu mela. Nobody is cl…

My apologies then. I too misunderstood
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