GitHub Should Start an App Store • Hacker News Board

Re: GitHub Should Start an App Store

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Post by numpad0 » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 6:34 PM UTC

villasv wrote: post #32

> They already host source code of millions of apps. Release integration should be trivial to implement. Release integration is trivial for anyone. It's the easiest and most irrelevant part of the app stores. > Unlike Google they actually listen to their users. They were awesome during youtube-dl debacle. And controversial on others, like shutting down Popcorn Time's repository. As any other, they'll listen if there'…

>> Microsoft has been playing good by the developers for years now. I trust them more than Apple and Google. > This is situational and opportunistic. It can change any day.

And the way they run a store is consistently horrible that it feels impossible to make worse. Full of horror stories, bans and rejections, sometimes even random pick deletions since Xbox Live Indie Games days, to at least as recent as just few quarters ago.

There are reasons why people choose iOS, Android, .msi file download from GitHub and so on over Microsoft Store.

Re: GitHub Should Start an App Store

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Post by jwond » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 6:35 PM UTC

lenkite wrote: post #83

simias wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh no, poor literary agent caught posting on Gab, a far right white supremacist website, and losing her job. Thoughts and prayers. More seriously if you think that's a problem IMO the solution is to ask for better employee protection laws so that people can't be fired at will. This is not a free speech problem IMO, it's a worker right issue. And if it turns out that her contract did mention that she shouldn't publicl…

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> [Whiteness] is a term being applied to people of colour too when they don't fall in line with the re-education program.

For anyone who doesn’t believe this is a thing, here’s a Washington Post article:

“Opinion: To understand Trump’s support, we must think in terms of multiracial Whiteness”

https://archive.is/d6Ydz

Re: GitHub Should Start an App Store

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Post by gfodor » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 6:35 PM UTC

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #119

gfodor wrote: post #105

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> if you do not think the kinds of behavior we are seeing where people's lives are being ruined by mob justice are anything other than "bogeymen" That's not how I took their response at all. I believe they were specifically picking up your derogatory use of the term "woke". If you meant "illiberal", why not use that term? It's far less ambiguous and less loaded.

Check the author of the comment you are referring to, it's not me. For what it's worth, I do not use the term "woke" for the reason you mentioned, but if someone asks what definition I would apply to it if I had to (as I was here) what I wrote is my answer.

Re: GitHub Should Start an App Store

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Post by petters » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 6:36 PM UTC

Not sure about the app store, but: it would be great if GitHub could provide binaries that were guaranteed to be built from a certain commit.

Re: GitHub Should Start an App Store

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 6:38 PM UTC

simias wrote: post #76

gfodor wrote: post #55

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I highly advise you write down somewhere what sort of event it would take for you to change your belief that this is nothing to be concerned about. Then, at least do a cursory check to see if such an event has occurred already, it may well have. https://mobile.twitter.com/thomaschattwill/status/1354194374...

Oh no, poor literary agent caught posting on Gab, a far right white supremacist website, and losing her job. Thoughts and prayers. More seriously if you think that's a problem IMO the solution is to ask for better employee protection laws so that people can't be fired at will. This is not a free speech problem IMO, it's a worker right issue. And if it turns out that her contract did mention that she shouldn't publicl…

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Re: GitHub Should Start an App Store

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Post by newbie578 » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 6:38 PM UTC

I could see GitHub having an App Store, would like to have them as an alternative to Apple, but that is not the optimal solution.

I do not wish for 10 App Store's to exist in the world and have to distribute to each one.

There already is the best platform available, it is called the Web. The problem is Apple purposely holding back PWAs so they can keep earning their Apple Mafia Cut.

I truly belive that for most apps excluding games, PWAs are the way to go. Truly cross platform, low on download speed, and can have almost identical functionality like most of the apps.

That is why I am stocked for Flutter Web, when it gets production ready, it can truly be a game changer. I am currently forced to make mobile apps, since PWAs are just not that popular nor ideal (Apple problems as I stated above), but I am using Flutter which is honestly fun and the best solution.

Make Apple (and Google, although they already have access on most of it) to their API, that is most notably the ability for PWAs to push notifications.

Re: GitHub Should Start an App Store

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Post by neduma » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 6:40 PM UTC

quaintdev wrote: post #67

Author here, I am afraid my blog is hosted on a Raspberry PI and it might go down because of HN traffic. If that happens, the mirror of the post is at https://telegra.ph/GitHub-Should-Start-An-App-Store-01-31 Did not expected this to blow up. Thanks for the critical feedback. You guys are tough crowd :)

or Make it available in github gist

Re: GitHub Should Start an App Store

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Post by xenihn » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 6:43 PM UTC

jugg1es wrote: post #118

I would support github creating a different entity that could act like an app store, but I do not think that github.com is best served by pivoting to anything other than what it does right now.

Why do people keep referring to Github as Github and not Microsoft when discussing business decisions?

Github is not "backed" by Microsoft. Microsoft owns them. Github is Microsoft. This article is asking Microsoft to start an App Store, which they have already done. It's called Windows Phone Store. The article should be asking Microsoft to rebrand Windows Phone Store, not asking Github to make a new app store altogether.

I see the same thing happen with Twitch and Amazon. It feels like people don't understand how much influence and control is exerted on even the most independent subsidiaries, and how that control only increases year-over-year. Especially when it comes to something that generates money.

Re: GitHub Should Start an App Store

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 6:47 PM UTC

jitendrac wrote: post #94

quaintdev wrote: post #67

Author here, I am afraid my blog is hosted on a Raspberry PI and it might go down because of HN traffic. If that happens, the mirror of the post is at https://telegra.ph/GitHub-Should-Start-An-App-Store-01-31 Did not expected this to blow up. Thanks for the critical feedback. You guys are tough crowd :)

Do you Host it at Home with static IP or DynDNS?? and which internet service provider do you use? Edit:Found its BSNL

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Re: GitHub Should Start an App Store

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Post by meerita » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 6:48 PM UTC

It sounds a good idea, but The road to hell is paved with good intentions. The only way to ensure pure, non controlled by corp distribution of software is and was BitTorrent. Microsoft may be good today, but may not in the future.