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Most of the time it might not be not just what you write but what that means in the context and which actions it triggers.
That kicks you off platforms you barely use? It's manually done. Don't hide behind "the machine did it"; it doesn't make sense.
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The moment a piece of knowledge becomes important, it can spread fast enough to reach almost everyone. "open this in settings, enter these numbers for youtube" doesn't require average iq to remember. And even if you can't recall, you can refer those in need to the person who told you.
They can indeed solicit the help of others, but the original claim was that they could do it on their own. There are a great many essential operations that people pay a professional to do all the time, even though it be quite easy to do on one's own.
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Terms of service cannot supersede local laws. If Twitter wants to do business in a country, they need to comply. Twitter can choose to give up ad revenue and reach. Turkish government may have bad motive. However, democratic governments around the world can and should regulate social media in their countries per the local laws.
So, all social media companies must have representative in all countries that allow local govs to remove any content? Or get all of their info such as IP address? Where is the line here? If I live in US and Tweet in Turkish, if Turkish gov ask for removal of that content should it be removed? Or should companies be required to share information about this user? If I write that in another language, that local gov don'…
If you are beyond this limit, you are required to have a representative or the bandwidth limitations are applied and fines start to accumulate. If you don’t intend to do business in Turkey, you just go on with your business and loose that market.
Oh, btw, it’s likely that they will request global content removal. If I recall correctly Youtube or Wikipedia was blocked for years because of this.
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Terms of service cannot supersede local laws. If Twitter wants to do business in a country, they need to comply. Twitter can choose to give up ad revenue and reach. Turkish government may have bad motive. However, democratic governments around the world can and should regulate social media in their countries per the local laws.
So, all social media companies must have representative in all countries that allow local govs to remove any content? Or get all of their info such as IP address? Where is the line here? If I live in US and Tweet in Turkish, if Turkish gov ask for removal of that content should it be removed? Or should companies be required to share information about this user? If I write that in another language, that local gov don'…
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>As long as you don't cause violence or you're not violating the terms of service which you accepted while joining to the service, they wouldn't remove your content or block you. That's both optimistic and naive given that TOS can change at any time, and interpretation aren't subject to appeal with a transparent process.
Yes, it can change any time and you can follow what's changed. It's also open to appeal to the company and I have seen mistakes corrected. My point is there is no secret agenda to bring up a content that supports one view. What Turkish gov wants to achieve is that, taking down the content they don't like. They have taken over all mainstream TV channels and you wouldn't see a line of critic on any channel, if you do i…
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Yes, it can change any time and you can follow what's changed. It's also open to appeal to the company and I have seen mistakes corrected. My point is there is no secret agenda to bring up a content that supports one view. What Turkish gov wants to achieve is that, taking down the content they don't like. They have taken over all mainstream TV channels and you wouldn't see a line of critic on any channel, if you do i…
clearly you never watch TV in turkey. there are critics everyday on very political TV programmes. and usually they try to get a representative from each political party to make it as fair as possible. except HDP, which has substential ties with terror organisations and very bad reputation in turkey. west think there is blockade against anti-government political fractions but in reality there is blockade against weste…
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>We just witnessed that you actually cant do any of those things (build your own platform that has real reach), there is no free market. I am witnessing the reality that it’s never been easier and cheaper in the history of the world to reach almost everyone in the world within seconds. It’s extremely easy to build a website, host it, have people type in a few letters and numbers, and “reach” each other. It’s never be…
> I am witnessing the reality that it’s never been easier and cheaper in the history of the world to reach almost everyone in the world within seconds. Only as long you don't have the wrong opinion. > It’s extremely easy to build a website, host it, have people type in a few letters and numbers, and “reach” each other. It’s never been easier, or cheaper. It’s as free market as it gets. And where do you find it? Googl…
With "wrong opinion" do you mean inciting hatred and violence, and spreading misinformation?
Because by that logic, we should also allow ISIS, Al-Qaeda et al. to do their thing.
Outside of these "wrong" opinions, parent commenter is pretty accurate. I've seen and heard of people launching a website in less than a day.
Let's not forget that freedom of speech does not give you freedom from consequences. AWS, Twitter, Google, Apple and everyone else has no obligation to give you a platform, especially when it looks bad on them, or it goes against their ahem morals (or rather: the employee's morals). Just like I, as an equal citizen, have no reason to hear you out or to spread your message, if I don't like your message.
After all that happened, Now it makes sense for a country to have a grasp over the communication of its citizens. That’s said, the primary use is expected to be control of journalism on Youtube. After Erdogan took over almost all of the media, many of the fired journalists started Youtube channels and got more popular than the media Erdogan has a hold on. He now wants to impose the same controls that he has over TV c…
It should be noted that the US has the same double standards, but enforced by silicon valley corps themselves in union. Moral of the story: Power currupts.
After all that happened, Now it makes sense for a country to have a grasp over the communication of its citizens. That’s said, the primary use is expected to be control of journalism on Youtube. After Erdogan took over almost all of the media, many of the fired journalists started Youtube channels and got more popular than the media Erdogan has a hold on. He now wants to impose the same controls that he has over TV c…
It should be noted that the US has the same double standards, but enforced by silicon valley corps themselves in union. Moral of the story: Power currupts.
each nations (and/or state) has their own ethics that think it must be enforced
americans would think a state that jail for blasphemy a tyranny, while america itself jail for antisemitism, racism (and this one really depends!) and terrorism propaganda, while america backed fighters in foreign countries can be entitled (rebels) instead if terrorists only if they are "US-certified terrorists" and because american media can shout louder.
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Terms of service cannot supersede local laws. If Twitter wants to do business in a country, they need to comply. Twitter can choose to give up ad revenue and reach. Turkish government may have bad motive. However, democratic governments around the world can and should regulate social media in their countries per the local laws.
So, all social media companies must have representative in all countries that allow local govs to remove any content? Or get all of their info such as IP address? Where is the line here? If I live in US and Tweet in Turkish, if Turkish gov ask for removal of that content should it be removed? Or should companies be required to share information about this user? If I write that in another language, that local gov don'…
won't twitter censor my tweets for hate speech,?
github and gitlab are US companies and censored projects only for the owner being iranian