Atlassian tells employees they can work from home forever

Post by lotsofpulp » Fri, Aug 07, 2020, 10:00 PM UTC

ornornor wrote: post #34

Hamuko wrote: post #23

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> I think if this trend of going fully remote holds up, it becomes much harder to justify living in an expensive city, especially as workers age. There's still distinct benefits to big cities. You can order stuff online fast, even groceries. You get good Internet connectivity, which is a thing that you need for remote work. Lots of services around.

Maybe in North America. In a lot of Europe, you can get pretty fast internet in small cities (fiber speeds)

Post by deepakhj » Fri, Aug 07, 2020, 10:04 PM UTC

daenz wrote: post #100

Anyone else suspect we are going to see a massive deflation of cities?

Post by deepakhj » Fri, Aug 07, 2020, 10:05 PM UTC

itdagusszous wrote: post #114

webkike wrote: post #103

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Not really, cities offer public transportation and a lot of enjoyable things to do. They were a thing before large corporations were seated there.

cost of living in cities has been rising at an insane rate over the last decade, a large part of it is tech salaries. I know a ton of software engineers who only live in cities b/c that's where the jobs are. Places outside of cities also offer a lot of (different) enjoyable things to do. Presumably big companies moving jobs away from cities will have some impact.

Post by manquer » Fri, Aug 07, 2020, 10:05 PM UTC

hevelvarik wrote: post #110

jimmaswell wrote: post #97

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What's wrong with Google docs or any of the myriad online whiteboard apps?

Unless you’ve mastered one of those tools, it’s impossible to match the fluidity of thought to text or visualization that a standard whiteboard provides you. I’m also not convinced that there is a tool that when mastered can provide the same fluidity, but I can claim that, and to the contrary I’d love a recommendation.

Post by d1zzy » Fri, Aug 07, 2020, 10:11 PM UTC

chronofar wrote: post #99

tomerico wrote: post #48

Unfortunately, game theory says that remote work will not stay once people can go back to work from the office safely. The reality is that there is a real advantage in working in person. Whether it’s increased trust, communication, or lower friction. We could see it pre-COVID in a he fact that there are barely any successful remote offices (let alone individuals). This means that employees would see advantages to com…

> The reality is that there is a real advantage in working in person. Whether it’s increased trust, communication, or lower friction. There is no inherent advantage to "working in person." Lower trust or communication or higher friction are not inherent to working remotely, they are the product of poor and overconfident management (at least in tech, given our forum here) and can be seen in any number of environments.…