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Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Post by nine_k »

sneak wrote: post #42
MaxBarraclough wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This question turned up a few hours ago over here [0]. Apparently some ISPs are perversely hostile to peering. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22627764

They are incentivized to attempt to charge for paid peering. It’s not that perverse, unless you like the internet going fast more than you like money.

Normally when both sides are truly peers, they have valuable traffic to offer to each other, so their mutual payments would mostly cancel out.

Likely some ISPs see themselves as offering more valuable traffic than their competitors striving to peer.

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Post by agumonkey »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #31
ketzu wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the trope "broadband is better somewhere else" for most places? Anecdotally, most people I know complain about the connection where they live.

Europeans seem pretty proud of their Internet, at least relative to the US, for example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22631036

it's mostly the cost/quality ratio, it's not asia levels of modernity (they seemed to be the first on most things) but it's accessible and stable

on the other hand the web is filled with horror stories emanating from C....st customers.

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Post by Avamander »

cortesoft wrote: post #99
read_if_gay_ wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s still bullshit.

While the whole world is trying to deal with the worst pandemic in 100 years, you are going to have to adjust your expectation levels for bullshit.

The pandemic doesn't affect what are good business practises. I understand that Americans might be more lenient in those terms, but Europeans tend not to be.

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Post by bluegreyred »

noodlesUK wrote: post #7

Are there any illustrations of the volumes of traffic that are being sent through core networks for netflix? I was under the impression the vast majority of traffic was served at the edge.

That's exactly what I was wondering!

With my (relatively small) Cable ISP in an affected country it obvious to me that any Netflix content gets served from very close to the edge, with higher bandwidth and lower latency than almost any other content from the internet.

The last mile does not appear to be close to oversubscribed either, as indicated by my firewall which tracks RTT to the first hop (which is interestingly trending down compared to the past weeks) and the occasional speedtest that never drops below nominal bandwidth (200 Mbit).

If anything it is low latency livestreaming content (i.e. Youtube, Twitch, Mixer) that should be throttled, particularly over cellular networks. I assume it's a matter of scale.

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Post by Hamuko »

throwaway55554 wrote: post #41
dogma1138 wrote: post #2

Does it mean they’ll pay me back for the 4K package?

Why would they? Do they pay you back when your ISP can't provide enough bandwidth for 4K? How much is 4K on top of regular Netflix service? Is it worth worrying about?

>How much is 4K on top of regular Netflix service?

4 euro a month (or 33% increase).

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Post by echelon »

Izmaki wrote: post #124

Are they gonna cut my bill also? I would hate to pay for a service i a, not getting (4k streaming)

> Are they gonna cut my bill also? I would hate to pay for a service i a, not getting (4k streaming)

In a desperate time of need, 4k streaming isn't really all that important.

I imagine you can make that change to your account yourself. Whether Netflix will prorate this for everyone automatically remains to be seen.

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