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Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by knzhou »

gruez wrote: post #113
knzhou wrote: post #109

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Just a month ago that subreddit was nothing but negative news about China, because China was doing a terrible job. Now China is evidently doing a good job and other countries are screwing up, so they're getting called out. Please don't turn every observation into the world into a conspiracy. It's possible for people to lack your nationalist fervor without being paid shills.

> Just a month ago that subreddit was nothing but negative news about China, because China was doing a terrible job. Now China is evidently doing a good job and other countries are screwing up, so they're getting called out. That explains the first two points, but not the last. It is also consistent with a "moderator takeover" that the original commenter claimed. As it stands, the subreddit hasn't gone full blown /r/…

It's the same set of moderators as when the sub was exclusively anti-China. The point is that the median reader of that sub is concerned with results, that's why the narrative their changed.

And yes, if you think celebrating the survival of Chinese grandmothers and grandfathers is so unbelievable that that anybody upvoting it must be a shill, you are blinded by politics. There are forums made for spewing out attitudes like yours, on the grimier parts of the internet. Please consider commenting over there instead, so we can keep HN clean. Thanks.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by JaxonH »

endorphone wrote: post #37
tic_tac wrote: post #31

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Agreed, Reddit is cancer. Reactionary hive mind internet at its worst. One of the biggest problems with Reddit is that Americans go on boards like /r/politics or in this case /r/Coronavirus, see extreme hostility towards America and Trump and assume that this hostility is all coming from Americans themselves, when really a substantial number of Reddit users (and users elsewhere on the Internet) are not American. Not…

Reddit is 50% American, and overwhelmingly skews young. It isn't surprising that it has a "predisposed bias" against Trump: The young aren't really a key Trump demographic (Trump has a >67% unfavorability rating among those under 40). Indeed, Trump's statist media is Fox News that has an average viewer ago of 68 years old (who, ironically, will be the bulk of the victims of COVID-19). Though anyone with even the slig…

I’m not a fan of the man, but frankly, so many on the other side make him look like a saint that I struggle to understand the outpouring of hate against him. And it’s true Fox is just an extension of the Republican Party, but so likewise are CNN, MSNBC and (basically every other major news site) extensions of the Democratic Party. In fact I think that’s why Fox News was created, to have at least one outlet of propaganda for the Republicans given everything else was propaganda for the Democrats. The big take away from that though is that all major media is just official propaganda for a political party.

What kills me though is the “if you disagree with me politically you’re obviously just a racist/homophobe/etc. That social justice agenda has to stop. And reddit is prime real estate for where they congregate. I watched a mass reddit mob harass anyone who claimed an accusation from a woman shouldn’t be automatically taken as fact, and that women NEVER lie and you are guilty the moment you are accused, and you’re a “horrible human being” if you even dare to think a single woman could EVER possibly lie when accusing someone.

The internet has done a lot of good, but it’s become Ground Zero for extremist ideology like that to run rampant.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by unishark »

endorphone wrote: post #37
tic_tac wrote: post #31

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Agreed, Reddit is cancer. Reactionary hive mind internet at its worst. One of the biggest problems with Reddit is that Americans go on boards like /r/politics or in this case /r/Coronavirus, see extreme hostility towards America and Trump and assume that this hostility is all coming from Americans themselves, when really a substantial number of Reddit users (and users elsewhere on the Internet) are not American. Not…

Reddit is 50% American, and overwhelmingly skews young. It isn't surprising that it has a "predisposed bias" against Trump: The young aren't really a key Trump demographic (Trump has a >67% unfavorability rating among those under 40). Indeed, Trump's statist media is Fox News that has an average viewer ago of 68 years old (who, ironically, will be the bulk of the victims of COVID-19). Though anyone with even the slig…

The thing is Trump isn't even particularly relevant to the vast majority of the stories, even when it's the federal govt screwing up. But reddit posters are constantly making it about him. The moderators do try to prevent the worst of political posting to their credit.

What's so ironic about foxnews viewers being victims? They aren't panicking appropriately enough or something? I just glanced at their website and it didn't seem particularly slanted on the topic. Looks like they have multiple coronavirus stories coming out every hour. One can easily freak out if so inclined.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by oska »

haunter wrote: post #98
killjoywashere wrote: post #87

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Your take on things is interesting as one instance of 3blue1brown's point in the video: if everyone is worrying, you don't have anything to worry about. But if no one is worried, you should be worried. You seem to be taking a position of "Everyone else is worried. I assert that my non-worry will be proven to be the correct position." Yet, your prediction that the redditors are excessively worried ("panicky") will onl…

I worry but I don't accept reddit's panicky "70% will be infected + 4% death rate = 150 million deaths" I even think the 500k death in the US is too much https://www.businessinsider.com/presentation-us-hospitals-pr... >Lawler's estimates include: >4.8 million hospitalizations associated with the novel coronavirus >96 million cases overall in the US >480,000 deaths Once again I'm not downplaying it but I think we will…

Except downplaying it is exactly what you are doing, based solely on a personal opinion which you do not back up in any way.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by TeMPOraL »

lonelappde wrote: post #118
TeMPOraL wrote: post #62

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It is, and pulling out the marathon bombing case just shows it's a hit piece. Social media in general, and Reddit in particular, are commoditizing news publications, and displacing them as trusted sources of information. That's IMO why there have been so many such articles coming out regularly in the past few years.

You don't find it terrifying that anonymous unaccountable randos are displacing the mainstream media?

Mainstream media is almost as anonymous and just as unaccountable as Internet "randos". The latter at least link to their sources sometimes.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by endorphone »

unishark wrote: post #123
endorphone wrote: post #37

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Reddit is 50% American, and overwhelmingly skews young. It isn't surprising that it has a "predisposed bias" against Trump: The young aren't really a key Trump demographic (Trump has a >67% unfavorability rating among those under 40). Indeed, Trump's statist media is Fox News that has an average viewer ago of 68 years old (who, ironically, will be the bulk of the victims of COVID-19). Though anyone with even the slig…

The thing is Trump isn't even particularly relevant to the vast majority of the stories, even when it's the federal govt screwing up. But reddit posters are constantly making it about him. The moderators do try to prevent the worst of political posting to their credit. What's so ironic about foxnews viewers being victims? They aren't panicking appropriately enough or something? I just glanced at their website and it…

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Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by unishark »

endorphone wrote: post #126
unishark wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is Trump isn't even particularly relevant to the vast majority of the stories, even when it's the federal govt screwing up. But reddit posters are constantly making it about him. The moderators do try to prevent the worst of political posting to their credit. What's so ironic about foxnews viewers being victims? They aren't panicking appropriately enough or something? I just glanced at their website and it…

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I told you dude, sea lions...

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by asdfman123 »

haunter wrote: post #18
lhl wrote: post #14

I've been tracking the coronavirus news for the past few weeks and have found https://www.reddit.com/r/covid19 to be good for tracking the latest scientific/medical publications, and https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirus for general news. For transmission rates, this team is updating their modeling results often: https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/current-patterns-tran... On twitter, @datagraver is publishing some…

Both of those subs are incredibly tinfoily and panicky. Honestly reddit is the worst. And BI is right that they are doing the same as always, just consiparcy things https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-reddit-social-pl... Also you might as well rename /r/Coronavirus/ to /r/politics2 aka fucktrump. It's the same thing over and over again

The thing about reddit is it can be very useful if you know when to take it seriously and know when they're being over the top. All the subs are subject to hivemind, so you have to correct for that.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by asdfman123 »

icegreentea2 wrote: post #61
haunter wrote: post #18

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Both of those subs are incredibly tinfoily and panicky. Honestly reddit is the worst. And BI is right that they are doing the same as always, just consiparcy things https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-reddit-social-pl... Also you might as well rename /r/Coronavirus/ to /r/politics2 aka fucktrump. It's the same thing over and over again

/r/coronavirus can definitely be bad on your mental health, but /r/covid19 is pretty level headed. Like ya, there are some scared people on it, but it's not very conspiracy-y.

One thing I don't understand is why we shouldn't all have a healthy dose of anxiety about the outbreak. Most of the stuff in life people go around worrying about is meaningless -- what will people think of me? What happens if I lose my job?

But if anxiety leads more people to self-quarantine and wash their hands over and over again, it will save lives. Potentially a lot of them.

Anxiety doesn't normally have a place in society because it's so overwhelmingly safe most of the time, but we're facing a legitimate threat that people can do something about.

Obviously, there's no place for panic and stockpiling, but most of the people I see don't seem too worried -- they don't seem worried enough. People should be more cautious.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by ajuc »

jacobolus wrote: post #81
ajuc wrote: post #17

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Countries with worse sanitation also tend to have slower transportation and less population shuffling. In the times of plague the places that suffered the least were: - sparsely populated - didn't participated much in the international trade - used quarantines on the borders early https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/bubonic-plague-spares-pola...

In modern times there is plenty of transportation and shuffling in crowded countries with poor sanitation. Remember it only takes a tiny bit of travel to spread a virus far and wide. I would predict things will get very bad in many parts of Latin America, Africa, and South and Southeast Asia.

There's a big difference between average daily commute being 5 km and 50 km.
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