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Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Post by UseStrict »

52-6F-62 wrote: post #76
stewjacks wrote: post #72

"A Place to Grow" drew ire because it comes from a weird "provincialist" 60's anthem commissioned by the same Progressive Conservative government. Check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU1wUfqhsM8

It's continually amazing to me how far they will go to politicize something. And now the old plates are "the Liberal's fault". They were also introduced by the PCs some time back. Cue eyeroll. That said, I'll take "A Place to Grow" over "Open for Business" as we once feared. All this to do some political posturing but we can't afford to let studies and trials keep running that were already under way. If I let my eyes…

Worst thing is that new commercial plates do have "Open for Business" on them. Fun fact, a lot of those black license plates on pickup trucks are commercial-style plates, meaning all the redneck truck-driving coal-rolling Conservative base will be cruising around with "Open for Business" on their trucks once the new plate designs come into effect.

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Post by refurb »

jfengel wrote: post #105
metalliqaz wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What the hell is wrong with people? I thought Canadians were better than this. Don't believe what your own eyes are telling you. Orwell turning over in his grave.

It works. The US has a remarkable ability to aim for the lowest common denominator -- in movies, in food, in technology -- and export that to the rest of the world. We're very good at finding things that are broadly appealing, and rewarding the people who create them. Politics is no exception. The world watches us, and they take what works. None of it is ever really novel, but a lot of it lies fallow until somebody s…

Are you really blaming the US for Canadian politicians shitty behavior?

As a Canadian, I can assure you we're more than capable of coming up with that behavior ourselves.

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Post by ornornor »

KSS42 wrote: post #115
rezgi wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is apparently not illegal in Ontario to put these very, very dark plastic covers over your plates either, making them so dark that they're barely legible unless you have your nose on that car. Including the (now) old design. Really, all you can see is a dark, smoked, grey rectangle where the plate is. I'm amazed this is legal.

It is illegal in Ontario. From the Ontario Highway Traffic Act: Number plates, further violations No other numbers to be exposed 13 (1) No number other than that upon the number plate furnished by the Ministry shall be exposed on any part of a motor vehicle or trailer in such a position or manner as to confuse the identity of the number plate. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 13 (1). Number plate to be kept clean (2) Every nu…

Right. You wouldn’t be able to tell by just walking around though. Every third cars has one of these plate darkener screens. And many cars also have windows so tinted you can’t even tell if it’s a man or a woman driving.

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Post by jsjddbbwj »

chongli wrote: post #44

Recall that this is the same provincial government that used public money to put stickers on gas pumps in what amounts to a protest on federal carbon taxes. Taxpayer money spent on a brazenly partisan political campaign.

>Taxpayer money spent on a brazenly partisan political campaign.

You should come to Catalonia...

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Post by jsjddbbwj »

thisisnico wrote: post #107
mfoy_ wrote: post #30

Ridiculous situation: MPP Lisa Thompson defends new Ontario licence plates. Video clip from Question Period, she calls previous license plates "Liberal plates". https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/f5xbtt/mpp_lisa_th...

I don't understand the point of this. I don't understand WHY they would waste my money on changing something that worked perfectly fine.

Because they can take a cut of that money for themselves.

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Post by refurb »

jbob2000 wrote: post #77
dangus wrote: post #67

Things I can’t understand: - Why North America doesn’t adopt European-style plates instead of the tiny, squished ones they have - Why license plates are allowed to act as regional advertisements for local states and provinces rather than identifiers - Why Canadians keep the Ford family in power

> Why Canadians keep the Ford family in power The Greater Toronto Area is very progressive, but once you travel out of that area, it very much resembles the US' flyover states - in appearance and politics. Ford spends all of his time campaigning in dinky little towns that hate Toronto.

Those dinky little town in fly over country! Why do they feel like they should have a say in how the province is run?

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Post by 2zcon »

millzlane wrote: post #17
HenryKissinger wrote: post #2

The concept of physical license plates is completely outdated anyway.

Yep, I can take plates off of relatively anycar I see, preferably the same make, model, and color. Skip tolls, red lights, kill anyone, be a get away vehicle, collect parking tickets practically do anything I want where I didn't want to be identified by my license plate. License plates unless they're permanently affixed to cars is a bit outdated. Identifying license plates on the vehicle should be more permanent. Sim…

If you get pulled over and have your fake plates ran you've already lost any gains from skipping tolls. If they're using ANPR, they don't even need to pull you over.

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Post by unethical_ban »

jfengel wrote: post #105
metalliqaz wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What the hell is wrong with people? I thought Canadians were better than this. Don't believe what your own eyes are telling you. Orwell turning over in his grave.

It works. The US has a remarkable ability to aim for the lowest common denominator -- in movies, in food, in technology -- and export that to the rest of the world. We're very good at finding things that are broadly appealing, and rewarding the people who create them. Politics is no exception. The world watches us, and they take what works. None of it is ever really novel, but a lot of it lies fallow until somebody s…

I loathe so much about my America's politics right now, but the US is not the source of all negative political activity. It's such a broad, incorrect assertion on its face.

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

ghettoCoder wrote: post #114
52-6F-62 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not interested in getting into a political flame war over some windmills, but I think it's a bit of a gross oversimplification to say that the people gained nothing from them. There were extensive public consultations. You can view the outcome from that here: https://whitepineswindfarm.webs.com/20120901%20WPWF%20(1-41-... Some of the "sidelined" concerns were pseudo-scientific complaints about health effects but…

This was done to finally shut of the coal plants (a good thing in my mind) but the GTA consumes a lot of electricity and it had to come from somewhere. So in a classic case of externalizing their problem they voted to make it someone else's problem. The sitting government took away local planning and oversight, created setback guidelines based strictly on what the industry wanted and practically all of the "consultat…

Your chosen language was pretty inflammatory.

I linked the document providing the large numbers of public consultations and their results. You made a lot of pretty inflammatory assertions as well, but I've never heard of these things from anywhere else.

Keeping in mind my home county is full of windmills on all sides. Not once have I heard of wells drying up or being polluted even from their harsher critics. And in this county nobody was "forced" to house a windmill. Farmers who opted to house one are well compensated to boot.

There are environmental studies done and accountability with regular updates to a number of institutions including Environment Canada expressly to prevent such problems. You can see how I am hesitant to believe hearsay in opposition to the results of studies by these kinds of organizations.

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