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Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Side note: why did Ontario voters go from one Ford to another? Did they think, I loved the previous Ford except for the drugs and debauchery? Why does name count for so much in elections? Sigh

Because the previous provincial leadership (Liberals Dalton McGuinty and Kathleen Wynne) performed poorly and caused a shift in political sentiment to the right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_premiers_of_Ontario

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Saw a few of these this weekend, I'm curious to see if the 407 (Ontario's toll road)cameras can read them at night. I imagine this gets changed quite quickly if they can only read the old plates.

> Saw a few of these this weekend, I'm curious to see if the 407 (Ontario's toll road)cameras can read them at night. I imagine this gets changed quite quickly if they can only read the old plates. It would be nice if some of the US states without tolls could do this on purpose, because many of the ones with them use them primarily to extract revenue from out of state drivers disproportionate to the cost of their use…

What's the point of a number plate if it's not to allow a stranger at a distance to identify the car? It seems that Anti-ALPR plates are indeed a bug, although plates may be a misfeature.

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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I suppose this means there might be a secondary market for the old plates given the near-universal disdain for the new ones.

There's no upside in having your own plates particularly legible. It's entirely a commons thing, nobody would opt into having plates at all if they were not mandatory.

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Ridiculous situation: MPP Lisa Thompson defends new Ontario licence plates. Video clip from Question Period, she calls previous license plates "Liberal plates". https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/f5xbtt/mpp_lisa_th...

What the hell is wrong with people? I thought Canadians were better than this. Don't believe what your own eyes are telling you. Orwell turning over in his grave.

It works. The US has a remarkable ability to aim for the lowest common denominator -- in movies, in food, in technology -- and export that to the rest of the world. We're very good at finding things that are broadly appealing, and rewarding the people who create them.

Politics is no exception. The world watches us, and they take what works. None of it is ever really novel, but a lot of it lies fallow until somebody says, "Hey, we should try that again." And at first people may say, "You can't do that, because mumble mumble," but the reply is "I can't hear you over the sound of you losing."

Trolling your opponents is hardly new, but we've polished it off and discovered that it's a great way to bond a political party. They feel enthusiastic, and they go out and vote for more of it, while demoralizing your opponents -- who go out and try to make sense even harder, and fail worse, because it's the reason they lose in the first place. They remain baffled that people fall for cheap tricks, without ever accepting the reality that they do.

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There probably is, but the police has better things to do than enforce traffic laws in Toronto (Ontario?) apparently. Really, the joke goes that if you want to kill someone in Ontario then do it while driving your car. It's even better if your victim is on a bike. Then you get a 500$ fine and back at the wheel. "Woops, didn't see them" is a valid defense, no matter the circumstances.

Here's a local example from Waterloo Region— Feb 2017, cyclist killed by motorist exiting the highway: https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/cyclist-dies-after-being-hit-fr... A year later, all charges dropped on account of an apparently burned out streetlamp. The lawyer called it "happenchance": https://www.therecord.com/news-story/8354441-charges-dropped...

I'm surprised the city of kitchener did not get sued for the lack of maintenance on the streetlamp.

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Ridiculous situation: MPP Lisa Thompson defends new Ontario licence plates. Video clip from Question Period, she calls previous license plates "Liberal plates". https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/f5xbtt/mpp_lisa_th...

I don't understand the point of this. I don't understand WHY they would waste my money on changing something that worked perfectly fine.

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> He invented an environmental issues with bats to halt construction on a partially complete windfarm. Even local bat experts have no idea what he's talking about. Worse! They actively started tearing down completed windmills as part of that project to the tune of $100 million!

So what if they did? The people forced to live with the windmills never wanted, gained nothing from them, and were completely sidelined, vilified, and cast as hicks, rednecks, or climate deniers for having the audacity to question the plan. They fought back using the ballot box and now are being rewarded with what they desired. To be heard. We absolutely need to decarbonize our economy but there's a right way to do i…

I'm not interested in getting into a political flame war over some windmills, but I think it's a bit of a gross oversimplification to say that the people gained nothing from them.

There were extensive public consultations. You can view the outcome from that here:

https://whitepineswindfarm.webs.com/20120901%20WPWF%20(1-41-...

Some of the "sidelined" concerns were pseudo-scientific complaints about health effects but those were still addressed with sincerity.

Nothing was "rammed" through, and suggesting such a project was is pretty dishonest.

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Ridiculous situation: MPP Lisa Thompson defends new Ontario licence plates. Video clip from Question Period, she calls previous license plates "Liberal plates". https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/f5xbtt/mpp_lisa_th...

What the hell is wrong with people? I thought Canadians were better than this. Don't believe what your own eyes are telling you. Orwell turning over in his grave.

Speaking of Orwell, easily readable license plates make ALPR and bulk government location/travel surveillance more effective.

Re: Ontario's new license plates have a problem: you can't read them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a local example from Waterloo Region— Feb 2017, cyclist killed by motorist exiting the highway: https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/cyclist-dies-after-being-hit-fr... A year later, all charges dropped on account of an apparently burned out streetlamp. The lawyer called it "happenchance": https://www.therecord.com/news-story/8354441-charges-dropped...

I'm surprised the city of kitchener did not get sued for the lack of maintenance on the streetlamp.

That assumes that any of this was really about the streetlamp though. Note that the person riding a bicycle was also guilty of the crime of "wearing dark clothing".
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