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With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by phonypc »

nradov wrote: post #69
RickJWagner wrote: post #16

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That's my plan. I've got the gym membership and use it often. I struggle mightily with eating less crap, though. (Especially chocolate.) Food is one of the great pleasures in life, and I haven't found really healthy food to be a good replacement for tasty junk. Maybe advances in food production will bring hope?

Try eating dark chocolate with minimal added sugar. It contains fewer calories and if you buy the good stuff it's quite tasty.

Darker chocolate should trend towards being higher in calories, containing proportionally more fat.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by asark »

coldtea wrote: post #81
phito wrote: post #37

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oh yeap, been struggling with this forever.

Try some bacon.

Costco pizzas are $10 and over 4000 calories, eat one of those a day and if you don't get fat then you probably have a tapeworm in you or something. Or you're Michael Phelps during training season.

... or me at 18. Damn I miss that metabolism.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by sylk »

dTal wrote: post #84
johnydepp wrote: post #67

The most intriguing thing I found in the article, is that, If you design & sell items specifically to elderly, they wont buy it. Because they don't want the product to remind that they are old. So the solution is to design a product which suits to the elderly but seems like its designed for young generation.

Hence, infomercials with ludicrously clumsy (but young) people.

Wow that explains a good majority of infomercials to me... Thank you.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by lenkite »

mcv wrote: post #56
bad_user wrote: post #23

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You don’t need a gym membership. For cardio you can go to any park for running or biking. It’s way more fun. For strength training you can do bodyweight strength training at home with no equipment required (calisthenics). Most people fall into the trap of paying for a gym membership, but then they never use it, because let’s face it, going to the gym wastes time and is uncomfortable. If you train at home by using the…

Biking is fun, but running? It's the most boring activity I've ever tried. A gym membership you don't use is useless of course, but having set appointments for sport, getting called on it when you don't show, and getting encouraged when you do, is far easier than trying to work up the self-discipline to do it at home. When you don't go to the gym on your own, what makes you think you'll do your exercises at home? I s…

Running is not boring if you are sprinting. But yes, the standard jog is the truly the most boring thing ever. I have fallen asleep and crashed while jogging. Sprinting is so much more fun - as long as you build up to it slowly to avoid sprains/pulls.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by m23khan »

isn't this happening already? From totally unscientific perspective, if you look at pictures of people from olden days (say high school seniors from 1970s/1980s vs from 21st century) as well pictures of 60+ people from 1940s/1950s,

you will notice people now look a lot younger. It isn't only the sense of grooming/clothing but also physical attributes which have changed

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by coldtea »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #90
coldtea wrote: post #85

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> So many people think anti-aging science is just about living more years, but that's missing half the picture. Anti-aging science is not just about living more years, it's about being able to live healthy and fulfilling lives both physically and mentally even as you age. Thats's 2/3rds of the picture. The other 1/3rd of "anti-aging" is selling snake-oil fads to suckers and for people with anxieties to obsess over.

> and for people with anxieties to obsess over One man's lack of anxiety is another man's Stockholm syndrome. That in this day and age, anti-aging research is still considered fringe and frowned upon by the overarching culture, instead of being one of the top priorities of R&D worldwide, is pretty damn shameful .

>One man's lack of anxiety is another man's Stockholm syndrome.

Well, people have escaped kidnappers. None has escaped death, and until this happens (which very well could happen technically at some point) it's just anxiety over the inevitable.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by coldtea »

asark wrote: post #122
coldtea wrote: post #81

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Try some bacon.

Costco pizzas are $10 and over 4000 calories, eat one of those a day and if you don't get fat then you probably have a tapeworm in you or something. Or you're Michael Phelps during training season. ... or me at 18. Damn I miss that metabolism.

Or just have 12 stacked pancakes for breakfast at iHop + all the trimmings every day.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

bad_user wrote: post #94
sundvor wrote: post #62

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If I could find room for a squat rack+ bench at home I'd agree with you. :) Nothing beats proper squatting, deadlifting, bench and shoulder presses. I cycle a lot but the benefits for this desk jockey are marginal compared to doing stronglifts twice or thrice a week.

For bodyweight strength exercises you don’t need a squat rack and bench, or other equipment. Calisthenics develop muscle more harmoniously and yield stronger joints. You can also practice them literally anywhere, which helps when on the move.

> Calisthenics develop muscle more harmoniously and yield stronger joints.

I did a quick google, and couldn't find any resources comparing bone density and joint strength for calisthenics practitioners vs strongmen or powerlifters. There's no way joint strength doesn't factor in when you're moving multiples of your own bodyweight. That's also a pretty hard limiting factor of calisthenics - once you're moving your own weight effectively, there's not a lot of places to go, unless you load up with more weight, and then, hey, you're weightlifting.

I'm also confused as to what you mean by "harmoniously" - the big compound movements in lifting that are in vogue right now use a ton of muscles to move stuff around, so a lot of muscles come into play. If you're talking about "muscle imbalances", well, if one was to do a ton of pull-ups and not a lot else, that's a calisthenics workout, and not balanced.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by kurthr »

coldtea wrote: post #126
TeMPOraL wrote: post #90

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> and for people with anxieties to obsess over One man's lack of anxiety is another man's Stockholm syndrome. That in this day and age, anti-aging research is still considered fringe and frowned upon by the overarching culture, instead of being one of the top priorities of R&D worldwide, is pretty damn shameful .

> One man's lack of anxiety is another man's Stockholm syndrome. Well, people have escaped kidnappers. None has escaped death, and until this happens (which very well could happen technically at some point) it's just anxiety over the inevitable.

Each living person has escaped death one more day... increasing healthy lifespan is a good thing right?

Why not want to extend it rather than make up reasons for old people to die that aren't killing them?

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