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There's a pile of bias in this question, but it such an important question that needs to be answered. Nazi policies were the defacto "science" for a decade-and-a-half. @Jude, how ill you prevent similar dogmas from taking hold? Especially if they are the popular dogmas?
True I am heavily biased toward the truth.
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How about API access and textual dumps for the other kinds of analysis?
Thomas here, programmer at Golden. We don't have any specific plans to announce at the moment, but we've been thinking about how best to provide API access, including looking into GraphQL. Let me know if you have any specific needs or ideas! thomas@golden.com
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Just FYI, most of the content on Wikipedia is actually dual licensed under CC-BY-SA and GFDL. Both licenses are copyleft licenses; CC0 is more permissive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reusing_Wikipedia_co...
Yes, but I’m talking about Wikidata (CC0), not Wikipedia (CC-BY-SA).
I hope it will not be registration walled like Quora but more open like stackexchange websites or hn. I refuse to participate to registration-ponzi-scheme. What will the content licence be ?
Jude from Golden here. We won't do the reg wall - hold me to it :>. We want the information to be open and EASY to access, thus no reg screen. CC4.0
I'm sure it's possible to make this an actual required element of the company, isn't it, rather than just the say so of someone who might'n't be at the company in the future?
Jude CEO and Founder of Golden here. Super excited to take this live. We are out to build the next place for canonical knowledge on the Internet. It has been a long-term mission for me to open up the knowledge coverage of billions of niche topics, companies, technologies and new concepts. Our aim is to cover in excess of 10bn topics in high detail over time. Although we all love Wikipedia, there have been various iss…
You say that you'll be doing more media and learning oriented content than Wikipedia: how are you planning to support this - given how many contributors Wikipedia has? (And if you don't mind then maybe you could go deeper into how would you compare to Wikipedia. :) Good luck!
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If you've taken VC, then surely there's an exit in about 5 years?
JG: I hope not :>
Like a lot of others here I'm also afraid hat will happen as VC starts to demand profit, now.
For the record, I'm in no way against successful companies being wildly profitable, quite the contrary: I see that as a guard against being forced to do dumb things.
What I am wary of however is companies being forced by VC to do all kinds of crazy stuff, like back when Quora decided to publish everything one looked at and I left there and then never to return, or when short after WhatsApp joined Facebook talk would start about "integration" and I would immediately start moving my account and all groups elsewhere.
What I could hope for[0] - especially with companies that are hoping to crowdsource a lot of data - would be some kind of effective guarantee and/or escrow to prevent short sighted plays by VCs or hostile takeover by Google, Facebook or similar companies, i.e. that companies would "tie themselves to the mast" to escape the siren songs.
[0]: but don't really expect in most cases as it would limit a number of profitable exits. An upside I could see would be that it would be easier to get crowdsourced data, from both companies as well as from individual contributors if one could believe that the data would stay accessible and not be abused.
Cynical self: They raised a $5mil round just to re-do wikipedia with more self-referential VC pats on the back. Intrigued self: If there is anything worth raising money for, it is building out a collective knowledge base for all of humanity. Angry self: Wikipedia is quite literally one of the most amazing things that the internet and millions of strangers have ever produced together, and lives as a vital proof of con…
Jude from Golden here. Agreed that WP is one of the most amazing things ever built and interesting to see your various lenses on our mission. To the cynical self: see dropbox launch on HN back in the day. PS I’m no way claiming we are dropbox :> To the angry self: There are various constraints that we want to release ourselves from in working on this problem by starting fresh. We believe the constraint space is too h…
As far as I can see, CC-BY-SA license only applies to the text and not the knowledge graph that users contribute.
But worse than just being a cautionary tale, I guess I'm unhappy to see this announcement because Quora could seriously have been what we got instead of Wikipedia, you know? Who wins in a platform race seems like a function of factors like first mover advantage and luck, rather than any dispassionate analysis of what would be better for the world.
So I wouldn't have the guts to start a project like this with VC funding. You have to model the probability that you'll be pushed out and replaced with someone who doesn't share your ideals and is tasked with finding a path to profit. How could anyone have the stomach to create a potential Wikipedia replacement with that kind of liability attached?