Knowledge from small number of debates outperforms wisdom of large crowds (2017) • Hacker News Board

Re: Knowledge from small number of debates outperforms wisdom of large crowds (2017)

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Post by kortets » Mon, Dec 24, 2018, 4:41 PM UTC

kortilla wrote: post #116

agsdfgsd wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have not made any extraordinary claims, I have repeated the very standard scientific consensus, which is constantly repeated in the popular media. I do not presume that every piece of common knowledge is going to be considered an "extraordinary claim" by someone who hates search engines. >Worrying about society overeating wasn’t even a thing in the US until the 50s. So, our modern lifestyle is good because we've on…

It is not common knowledge that a hunter gatherer lifestyle without medicine/food science/etc is better. It is not reported in popular media and it’s not backed by scientific research. It is an extraordinary claim. >our modern lifestyle is good because we've only been worried about it killing us since we've had it? Nope. It’s good because it’s provided us with abundance to the point where we are no longer struggling…

>It is not common knowledge that a hunter gatherer lifestyle without medicine/food science/etc is better.

Nobody claimed it was.

>It is an extraordinary claim.

Which nobody made. The claim was that they worked fewer hours and had more nutritious diets. You should really consider reading the posts you reply to.

>It’s good because it’s provided us with abundance to the point where we are no longer struggling just to feed ourselves

We haven't been struggling just to feed ourselves in over 2000 years. Obesity and diet caused diseases are not an improvement over healthy diets. An excess of food is not superior to the correct amount of food.

Re: Knowledge from small number of debates outperforms wisdom of large crowds (2017)

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Post by dang » Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 7:23 AM UTC

kortilla wrote: post #114

agsdfgsd wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The myth is that 90% were involved in food production in any way. Butchers and millers and brewers and bakers are part of that 90%, they were not doing anything in any fields. But that myth is based on England under Roman rule, where vast quantities of food were grown by slaves and shipped to Rome. After the fall of Rome, people returned to farming for the local population, and so needed fewer farmers. The period is…

>Tillage was done as little as necessary But it was done FFS. You know you could get a lot more out of a discussion if you didn’t start out with easily disprovable hostile statements.

Would you please read the site guidelines and not post like this to HN? It's against the rules, no matter how wrong or provocative another comment may be.

More generally, please don't do flamewars or post in the flamewar style to this site.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Knowledge from small number of debates outperforms wisdom of large crowds (2017)

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Post by kiliantics » Thu, Dec 27, 2018, 7:12 PM UTC

throwaway7yeet wrote: post #49

amelius wrote: post #36

Perhaps we can save democracy by replacing the voting mechanism by placing people in groups of 10, and letting them reach consensus before making a vote.

That’s how voting in China works. There’s a hierarchical electoral system where those at the bottom of the group votes for the next position up.

It's also the model used/proposed in a lot of socialist systems, such as Democratic confederalism, as practiced by the Kurds in Rojava