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Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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Post by Alex3917 »

jsutton wrote: post #53
eeks wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wikileaks believed at the time that Clinton was ready to send a drone to get rid of Assange. Between due process and a drone attack, I take due process any day.

'Believed' is a loose term, you'd have to be deluded to believe something like that.

You've apparently forgotten all about that whole Osama Bin Laden thing. You know, the person who Clinton sent a team to kill even though he was never charged with any crime. There's even a video of Clinton watching his illegal assassination.

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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Post by sonnyblarney »

busterarm wrote: post #76
jsutton wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'Believed' is a loose term, you'd have to be deluded to believe something like that.

Would you though? The State Dept under Clinton played fast and loose with it's own procedures and regulations and I have a friend who died in the Benghazi attack if you want to fight with me on this point. More than 5% of the Section 702 wiretaps conducted under the last President's administration were performed illegally by their own admission. False flag operations are part of our history and three-letter agencies…

"Would you though?"

Yes. There's a difference between drone programs 'crossing the line' say, in a hunt for known terrorists, they blow up a building that has civilians next door our just outside ... and arbitrary targeting of 'annoyances of the state'.

There are actually quite scant false flag operations in US history, and many of them weren't even false flag so much as 'purposefully misrepresented'.

And besides - there would be no 'false flag' with any kind of attempt to kill Assange.

The notion that Clinton (or any agency) would go after Assange with drones and hellfire missiles is well into crazyland territory. Not even the crazy among them are thinking it, it doesn't make sense really on any level I think.

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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Post by elliekelly »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #68
shostack wrote: post #51

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> "This is untrue. There is nothing suggesting that Wikileaks has knowingly coordinated with Russia." Really? Nothing at all? Big fat nothingburger? https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/what-the-latest-mue...

An indictment is not proof for a start, this is a fundamental part of the US justice system. That indictment does not actually mention Wikileaks at all, let alone suggest that Wikileaks knew the source was the Russian government.

>That indictment does not actually mention Wikileaks at all

If you read the indictment it's pretty clear that "Organization 1" is Wikileaks.

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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Post by darawk »

StavrosK wrote: post #114
aglavine wrote: post #106

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You realize he may be a Russian spy, don't you?

Does that excuse the war crimes that were committed?

No, but do the war crimes the US committed mean that Assange is not guilty of being a Russian asset?

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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Post by r00fus »

staplers wrote: post #103
resters wrote: post #64

By doing this the US is coming to the aid of the many dictators and despots whose crimes Assange has helped reveal. Also, by ignoring the crimes revealed by the Iraq and Afghanistan war logs, the US makes it very clear that war-making cronies rule both parties and would never hold each other accountable for anything. To be clear, the war logs revealed that the US classified information solely because it revealed that…

People will upvote this comment and complain about the system being broken then turn around and ridicule anyone who votes third party or claims large media companies are corrupt.

Third party is great.... if you have a better election system than plurality voting.

See Maine CD-2

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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Post by craftyguy »

eeks wrote: post #32
Apocryphon wrote: post #4

So much for WikiLeaks thinking there was a lesser evil back in 2016

Wikileaks believed at the time that Clinton was ready to send a drone to get rid of Assange. Between due process and a drone attack, I take due process any day.

> Between due process and a drone attack, I take due process any day.

I'd take the drone strike. The end result is, with almost 100% certainty, going to be the same. At least with the drone attack, you don't have to waste away in prison until you die. It's all but certain he would be convicted.

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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Post by boomboomsubban »

foldr wrote: post #100
boomboomsubban wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, nothing suggesting they are knowingly working with the Russians. Wikileaks quality has surely dropped. They are still the press, and any prosecution by the US will be over things like the Manning links, a direct attack on the freedom of the press.

>Again, nothing suggesting they are knowingly working with the Russians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tomorrow

OK, there is evidence that Assange sold the broadcast rights of a show to a Russian controlled news organization. Do you think that Jesse Ventura should also be prosecuted?

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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Post by tw04 »

hnmonkey wrote: post #115
aglavine wrote: post #106

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You realize he may be a Russian spy, don't you?

Asset. Spies work directly for Russian military intelligence. Assets are the ones they control.

How exactly do you know he isn't working directly for Russian intelligence?

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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Post by darawk »

busterarm wrote: post #98
ixtli wrote: post #91

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> Would you though? Well, yes. The ever-increasing, horrible drone campaigns conducted from the Obama years onward as a tool of destabilization are one thing, but that doesn't make it reasonable to expect that they'd use them to assassinate high profile political agitators in first world countries or that they actually have the ability to do such a thing. The contexts are totally different, however the narrative IS i…

> doesn't make it reasonable to expect that they'd assassinate high profile political agitators in first world countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassinations_in_Euro...

Which of those do you think is relevant?

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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Post by hammock »

longerthoughts wrote: post #105
busterarm wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you though? The State Dept under Clinton played fast and loose with it's own procedures and regulations and I have a friend who died in the Benghazi attack if you want to fight with me on this point. More than 5% of the Section 702 wiretaps conducted under the last President's administration were performed illegally by their own admission. False flag operations are part of our history and three-letter agencies…

>More than 5% of the Section 702 wiretaps conducted under the last President's administration were performed illegally by their own admission. Source?

Here is a starting point. https://www.newamerica.org/oti/blog/history-fisa-section-702...

Here is another source that says 0.5% https://www.aclu.org/foia-document/semiannual-assessment-com...

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