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Wow, a whole 6 years?

Thats officially supported. I have personally run stuff a year or two older than official support multiple times with 0 issues. And 6 years is typically the lifecycle of any laptop. By that point most people start looking for a new one.

My 2011 mbp is doing very well with a new battery, ssd and some extra RAM. I will still receive security updates for years if I'm correct but no more mayor updates indeed.

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It dosen't happen that way on windows. I had scaling set to 1.25 and got no issues anywhere. The issue with linux is that X wasn't designed for this and Wayland is still unstable/unusable (thanks nvidia)

Wayland is actually pretty stable. Nvidia has problem with OpenGL in Xwayland (i.e. 3d accel for x11 apps), otherwise, it should work. There are warts though, when using Wayland. When using scaling (doesn't have to be fractional, either), X11 apps are being upscaled, not downscaled, resulting in blurriness. Unfortunately, neither Firefox nor Chrome does support Wayland natively, and who wants to use their most used a…

Firefox has recently added wayland support, it isn’t enabled by default.

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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A point that's not been discussed in the Ubuntu vs Debian discussion here is the difference in communities. A major reason I prefer Ubuntu - ok specifically Kubuntu - is because I find the community around it warm, welcoming, positive, encouraging and inclusive, whereas I found the Debian-user email list cantankerous to say the least. I'm glad there's a place for the kinds of posters out there in the world, but it's…

OT: cantankerous - bad-tempered, argumentative, and uncooperative thanks for the vocabulary expansion!

Must admit that the OT (OP?) needed some help from a spell checker to write it though ;)

To add that the word generally springs to my mind everything you said, plus elderly.

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You should also consider KDE Neon, an 18.04 base but KDE/Plasma directly from the devs. If you use Snaps for your useland tools you have very stable base and a super up-to-date userland. I'm very happy with it.

Isn't Neon the bleeding edge release for plasma though? Or would you just call it 1st party supported

It's what the plasma devs (supposedly) run. It feels very stable. Plasma/KDE/QT are of course pretty mature and stable.

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My dad! :-P For non-technical people, I think there's not much difference between using a computer with Ubuntu, Mac or Windows, for regular tasks like browsing the internet, online shopping, sending email, doing stuff in spreadsheets, sharing photographs, etc. Software's mostly the same, in fact. And with this trend to make everything browser based, even more. Of course things can go wrong, but it doesn't really matt…

That's true only so far as using MS Office is not needed... Most people's computing needs would be adequately served by an iPad -- but those who aren't are typically doing more with their computers than can be met by any OS.

Right. While Office has still some unpaired features, it's also true that not everybody using Office needs Office, specially the home users who need only daily finance, writting letters, etc.

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Despite recieving enormous amounts of backlash and criticism from the tech comunity every release Canonical is the one company making Linux desktops available for less technical people and I applaud them for doing so! Rocking the latest LTS here, and Ubuntu server on my homeserver. Wish them all the luck!

I had been running Ubuntu but I recently switched to Fedora as a desktop OS. I've found it a much more pleasant experience. Ubuntu is by no means bad but their changes from upstream seem to cause friction.

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I'm amazed at Canonical policy of releasing new versions with these kind of bugs open https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes#Known_... Anyone care to recommend a distro which has better policy on quality? (for desktop usage)

I railed aganinst Red Hat and Fedora for years, then gave in to peer pressure eventually - it's been an extremely pleasant and productive experience.

Considering the workstation, server and atomic types in the fedora page I'm not sure about using it for desktop/home usage.

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That's true only so far as using MS Office is not needed... Most people's computing needs would be adequately served by an iPad -- but those who aren't are typically doing more with their computers than can be met by any OS.

Right. While Office has still some unpaired features, it's also true that not everybody using Office needs Office, specially the home users who need only daily finance, writting letters, etc.

That's true -- and most of those customers could just as easily use an ipad (or equivalent, it doesn't really matter at that point and I think they all run some subset of Office applications). The age of the personal computer is almost over, unfortunately. Those of us who still use them do expect more out of them though.

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I don't see how Ubuntu is any less complicated than say, Fedora. I also really don't like their use of CLAs and their attempt to use their desktop presence to push Ubuntu-specific technologies like Mir, Unity, and Snap.

As a Fedora user, I'd be one of the first to admit that Ubuntu is more user friendly. The installation of the graphics drivers for example was a HUGE pain on Fedora. Getting everything in gnome setup was quite a chore. Printer setup was a pain That said, i've found the long term stability of Fedora to be better than Ubuntu. The main reason I switched was I had a few instances where I upgraded, and several things on m…

I've found that, at least with Fedora 28, Nouveau is sufficient, surprisingly even for a modern GTX 1070. Of course I'm missing out on much of what it is capable of however for a standard desktop experience it's fine. I still use Windows for any games. If you wanted CUDA on Linux then I suppose it might be better to stick to the beaten path.

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I don't see how Ubuntu is any less complicated than say, Fedora. I also really don't like their use of CLAs and their attempt to use their desktop presence to push Ubuntu-specific technologies like Mir, Unity, and Snap.

What I don't like about Fedora is its release cycle, forcing you to upgrade every year or so. With Ubuntu I can still be getting updates for a sytem installed four years ago now. I also don't like the lack of many packages inside the official repositories, compared to Canonical's. And lastly, well, I feel a little bit uncomfortable when using their specific tools like, for example, dnf, or their configuration convent…

Would RHEL/CentOS not serve a similar purpose to the Ubuntu LTS releases, if a little less suitable for workstation use?
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