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Re: The Overprotected American Child

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The proliferation of these overprotective practices reminds me of the proliferation of simpler practices we impose on kids like showering regularly and wearing clean clothes that we just take for granted now. The link in my mind is how you can pick most any practice that is common amongst a majority of the population today and look back 50, 200, sometimes 2000 years and you can trace it back to a minority aristocrati…

It used to be said that certain kings or personages were made of glass and that if you touched them, they would shatter and the kingdom would fall. Much like a regular private hot bath, I fail to see the value of a Glass King. Once I visited the UK and some kids threw lit firecrackers into my scarf. Then all the adults kept drinking. I assume America is currently behind the times, Europe having since updated the myth…

Don't forget to come back here when you ultimately publish your findings. I know I'll be keeping an eye open.

Re: The Overprotected American Child

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I would wager that all of those correlate so heavily to wealth bracket that it would be a wash. And a surprise for you. That is, wealth is a proxy for all of those measures. And every attempt at fixing those measures has ended poorly. At best.

It looks like 8% of children are food insecure, for example. That’s awful but we’re also a lot further along than the 20% figure in TFA.

Is this just a contest to look good? Yes, we have made great progress. I actually think we should celebrate more of it. Some metrics do give pause for concern, though. Long before they give pause for alarm.

Re: The Overprotected American Child

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> "20 percent of US children live in families with incomes below 50 percent of the national median income" This is a bizarre metric. If richer families started having children at a higher rate, or poorer families slowed down, the problem would be fixed? What if we simply cut the pay of the upper 50%, not even redistributing the income? That would lower median income, and therefore shrink the "less than 50% of median…

I thought poor families had more kids

Poor individuals are less likely to get married or have any kids.

Re: The Overprotected American Child

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she left a 12 year old in charge of a three year old at the mall which is a much different situation.

Am I remembering things wrong, or wasnt baby sitters potentially 12 years old when I was growing up?

Yes, in my time seven years old children could go off on the streets to play for hours by themselves, ride a bike or skate without a helmet, etc. Things have gone in not a precisely healthy direction, in my opinion.

Re: The Overprotected American Child

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>I don't think anyone is arguing for more dangerous products or safety precautions for toddlers. Maybe some people think that way. Colloquially, I've heard about a million times Europeans laugh at how ridiculous they think some laws are in that regard, such as Kinder eggs being banned in America.

Are kinder eggs actually a dangerous product, or are they just getting swept up by broader American legislation? It's my understanding the American law preventing the importation of kinder eggs is a law against inedible objects from being embedded inside edible objects, which seems generally reasonable. Generally. But are Kinder eggs actually dangerous? Are many European children dying because of Kinder eggs specific…

I would dispute the reasonableness of that law... Does it apply to cherries, olives, avocado, apples, pears, etc.?

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Are kinder eggs actually a dangerous product, or are they just getting swept up by broader American legislation? It's my understanding the American law preventing the importation of kinder eggs is a law against inedible objects from being embedded inside edible objects, which seems generally reasonable. Generally. But are Kinder eggs actually dangerous? Are many European children dying because of Kinder eggs specific…

I would dispute the reasonableness of that law... Does it apply to cherries, olives, avocado, apples, pears, etc.?

As I understand it, it applies to corporations deliberately manufacturing foods that way. It would be ridiculous if the law applied to fruits, but it doesn't. And nobody would earnestly call for the law to be applied in that way except in an attempt to make some sort of rhetorical argument for allowing corporations to put inedible plastic objects inside of food.

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I would dispute the reasonableness of that law... Does it apply to cherries, olives, avocado, apples, pears, etc.?

As I understand it, it applies to corporations deliberately manufacturing foods that way. It would be ridiculous if the law applied to fruits, but it doesn't. And nobody would earnestly call for the law to be applied in that way except in an attempt to make some sort of rhetorical argument for allowing corporations to put inedible plastic objects inside of food.

The point is why it doesn't apply to fruits. People already feed their children with food that naturally contain inedible things in them. The law would make sense to force labelling so parents can tell if there's inedible things in a specific food item and also to make sure those things are non-toxic. Anything more reeks of overreaching to me. Then again, I'm not as creative as USA food corporations, so I could be having trouble imagining what they'd do if the law was as I'm describing it.

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If they ended in high paying profession and are reasonably happy then maybe their decision to follow advice given to them was right.

So you are okay with people with no spine basically running this country? Because that's what high paying professionals typically do. It may not be politics, but they typically have a lot of power and their spinelessness impacts a lot more people than just themselves. I don't think this is at all a good thing.

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Re: The Overprotected American Child

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If they ended in high paying profession and are reasonably happy then maybe their decision to follow advice given to them was right.

>If they ended in high paying profession and are reasonably happy then maybe their decision to follow advice given to them was right. Absolutely. These people make fantastic employees. But the world needs more than just employees.

Yes. The world also needs people who will promote the plentiful and great leaders already present in their society.

Re: The Overprotected American Child

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A wallet-sized Let Grow “Kid Card” is meant to be carried by children when they are out on their own, to calm the fears of overly concerned adults. https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/B3-AQ358_INDEPE_M... ^This here. Except the Concerned Adults will never get a chance to read it because they'll call the police to rescue the 12-year-old dropped off at the mall by her mom. https://www.brainchildmag.com/2014/01/g…

she left a 12 year old in charge of a three year old at the mall which is a much different situation.

Here's the rule from the transit system in Berlin:

"Children under four years of age may only use public transport if they are accompanied by a person who is at least six years of age."

https://www.bvg.de/en/Tickets/fare-overview/conditions-of-ca...

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