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Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by samuell »

wdanilo wrote: post #110
samuell wrote: post #99

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$ du -sh .luna/ 671M .luna/ Pretty browseable directory, to be fair. But yeah, would be nice with some more clear indication of where the installation is going, from the installer. Now I found the location in this thread.

Samuell, please note that we are shipping Luna together with Atom.io app. Look at `.luna/config/luna-studio/1.0/atom/packages/luna-studio/lib`. The main Luna Studio lib is around 35mb on my computer. There is also a compiler and some small plugins. Everything else are npm's node_modules and Atoms ecosystem. We will distribute Luna Studio without Atom in the future, then it will be super-lightweight. Does it make sens…

IC, thanks for the clarification!

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by wdanilo »

VladimirGolovin wrote: post #89
kustosz wrote: post #2

Hi, I'm one of Luna founders, I'll be happy to answer any questions! :)

I'm trying Luna under a non-admin account in Windows 10. I tried to install it for the first time and forgot to turn Avast antivirus off. It blocked tar2.exe execution, so I had to turn it off and reinstall. It downloaded and installed fine, but I can't figure out how to run it: there's no shortcut in Start menu. Does Luna create one, when installed normally?

@VladimirGolovin I'm sorry that you have bad experience with installation so far. Please report your issue to our bugtracker and provide as much information as possible. Windows support needs much love and we will improve it as fast as we can. https://github.com/luna/luna-manager/issues

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by wdanilo »

cturner wrote: post #91
VladimirGolovin wrote: post #89

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I'm trying Luna under a non-admin account in Windows 10. I tried to install it for the first time and forgot to turn Avast antivirus off. It blocked tar2.exe execution, so I had to turn it off and reinstall. It downloaded and installed fine, but I can't figure out how to run it: there's no shortcut in Start menu. Does Luna create one, when installed normally?

Similar experience. I booted to windows to try it. No antivirus in play. Installer exits without explanation, cannot see anything to run.

@cturner I'm sorry that you have bad experience with installation so far. Please report your issue to our bugtracker and provide as much information as possible. Windows support needs much love and we will improve it as fast as we can. https://github.com/luna/luna-manager/issues

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by wdanilo »

marmaduke wrote: post #79
kustosz wrote: post #2

Hi, I'm one of Luna founders, I'll be happy to answer any questions! :)

Do you have any perspective on offloading numerical code to the GPU? Is that something that could be done in a library?

@marmaduke that is definitely something you can do in a library. Luna provides two backends - a runtime interpreter and native code generator (the later is not yet available in this release). Both have access to the most primitive OS APIs. If none of our standard libraries provide what you need, you can easily extend them either by writing it from scratch in Luna or connecting to Haskell libraries. We are working to allow you to connect to libraries in other programming languages as well and allow you to do it in the simplest possible form. If you have any further questions - how to do it, how it works, write to us using our forum: https://discuss.luna-lang.org/

We would love to help you create what you need!

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by wdanilo »

tobiaslins wrote: post #102
kustosz wrote: post #2

Hi, I'm one of Luna founders, I'll be happy to answer any questions! :)

The line "Loves dogs, hates JavaScript." is really unprofessional. Wojciech should write which language he likes..

I love dogescript (https://github.com/dogescript/dogescript)

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by wdanilo »

executesorder66 wrote: post #101
wdanilo wrote: post #35

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@moondoge, if you don't want to provide your mail, just write anything in this field, we do NOT validate it in any way. However, we would be very thankful if you provide your real mail address, so we can track how Luna is used and improve the experience. Every data we collect is described here: http://www.luna-lang.org/alpha-data.html . We try to collect only insensitive data, that tell us how Luna is used and how we…

> if you don't want to provide your mail, just write anything in this field, we do NOT validate it in any way. So why don't you just make it a non-required field? I don't appreciate your attitude towards user privacy, so I will never use any of your products.

@executesorder66 I am sorry if you feel we don't respect our user's privacy. We do and we are always searching for the best solution. We did not make the field optional, because we were sure it will not be a problem when testing the beta product. We will release soon a fix which would allow you to progress without providing the mail. The anonymous usage statistics will be optional and disabled by default when Luna will hit the stable release. Does it solve your issue?

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by wdanilo »

e3b0c wrote: post #70

This looks very cool. It would be interesting if we can construct software with a UI like this but based on an SSA IR or downright CPU instructions instead of another high-level language.

@e3b0c The GUI lives here: https://github.com/luna/luna-studio. It contains code which speaks with our compiler and infrastructure and we will probably extract the barebone GUI to separate repository soon. Anyway, you can play with it and we do want to support such use cases, because it will make the interface even better and would bring benefits to both Luna and your low-level system :)

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by evilduck »

wdanilo wrote: post #38
bsaul wrote: post #25

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I see really fast and hard to understand animations. What i mean is a 20 minute video demonstrating how to solve a real problem in the environment.

@bsaul, video tutorials are a very interesting idea. In the first release, however, we have incorporated few toy-projects and interactive tutorial, which guides you step by step inside the product. Do you think video tutorials are better to understand / follow than examples or interactive tutorials ?

This was linked on your site and IMO it's sped up about 5x faster than what I could possibly glean information from: https://vimeo.com/250844656

The real-time speed probably doesn't make for a nice animation but it would definitely be easier to follow.

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by wdanilo »

shalabhc wrote: post #57

Is it possible for Luna to self host? Is that somewhere on Luna's roadmap?

Luna is general purpose so it would be possible right now to rewrite the compiler from Haskell to Luna, but there is no plan for it simply because it would give us no benefits at the current stage. I agree that it should be done in long-term vision, just because it is "pure" and "beautiful", but do not expect it to happen anytime soon.
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