Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

Post by MattRix » Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 11:24 PM UTC

hathawsh wrote: post #120

rubicon33 wrote: post #116

I wish someone could explain in detail what EXACTLY is meant by "sugar". It's become an overloaded term. When we say sugar, do we JUST mean refined, processed, isolated sugars of the likes of candy bars, sodas, etc? Or do we mean carbohydrates in general, which are broken down by enzymes in our saliva (amylase) into sugars? If the latter then can we conclude carbohydrates in general are cancer causing? I'm no biologi…

Of the people I know who have been on a sugar-free diet, all of them continued to eat carrots, even though carrots have an interesting amount of sugar. http://www.sugarstacks.com/carrots.htm So when people say they're on a sugar-free diet, I interpret that to mean they are avoiding refined sugars.

Post by anindha » Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 11:27 PM UTC

hathawsh wrote: post #120

rubicon33 wrote: post #116

I wish someone could explain in detail what EXACTLY is meant by "sugar". It's become an overloaded term. When we say sugar, do we JUST mean refined, processed, isolated sugars of the likes of candy bars, sodas, etc? Or do we mean carbohydrates in general, which are broken down by enzymes in our saliva (amylase) into sugars? If the latter then can we conclude carbohydrates in general are cancer causing? I'm no biologi…

Of the people I know who have been on a sugar-free diet, all of them continued to eat carrots, even though carrots have an interesting amount of sugar. http://www.sugarstacks.com/carrots.htm So when people say they're on a sugar-free diet, I interpret that to mean they are avoiding refined sugars.

Post by wolco » Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 11:37 PM UTC

tomjen3 wrote: post #112

gggvvff wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aspartame.

I only upvoted you because Aspartame is such an interesting case - no other food that I can think of has had such vitrol thrown at it, yet every single scientific study has shown no effect on blood sugar, the chemical is simple, the two compounds it breaks down to in the liver are already present in the body and its properties are well known. Yet people still hate it.

Post by sluggg » Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 11:51 PM UTC

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #110

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #106

I recently started the Whole 30 diet (paleo), and it's nearly impossible to avoid sugar, corn starch, and dextrose. Almost all fooeds seem to have one of those. Often for no reason: why put sugar in beans and bacon, or corn starch in turkey? The amount of money I'm spending on food jumped by 3x. It seems accurate to say that if you're poor, you're almost forced to eat sugar for economic reasons.

I don't follow any particular diet, but most of my meals are vegetables and a small amount meat / fish / eggs / chicken. I find it quite affordable. I typically avoid buying anything processed, those items rapidly ruin my budget.

Post by mattm » Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 11:55 PM UTC

ams6110 wrote: post #56

qwerty456127 wrote: post #25

The whole phenomenon of sugar and fructose being added to virtually everything is beyond comprehension. There are so many people, fat and slim, saying they don't want to be fat, yet eating foods with added sugar every day. Why not just replace all the added sugar with erythritol, for example? The whole situation with sugar reminds me of the situation with opium in early 19th century China

The reason is that in the 1970s and 80s people started freaking out about fat. Everyone from the FDA to USDA to family doctor was telling people fat was bad. So food producers started making fat-free versions of everything. Only problem is it tasted like shit. So what did they do? They added sugar. So now you have sugar added to everything from salad dressing to pasta sauce to bread and muffins. The latter probably h…