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Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by rageear »

jcastro wrote: post #8

Does anyone know if the Atomic Host will auto update from 26->27 or is it a manual process?

It will not.

The location of the F27 bits are separate from the F26 bits, so you'll have to manually add a new remote and then rebase to that new remote.

  $ sudo ostree remote add --set=gpgkeypath=/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-27-primary fedora-atomic-27 https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/atomic/27
  $ sudo rpm-ostree rebase fedora-atomic-27:fedora/27/x86_64/atomic-host
Static deltas are enabled from the last F26 commit to the F27 release which should reduce the amount of data you have to ship over. Just make sure your host is at the latest F26 release via `rpm-ostree upgrade` before doing the rebase operation.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by mynewtb »

baldfat wrote: post #89
ddavis wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've used Arch Linux (with Gnome 3, i3, dwm, Xfce, Cinnamon, Mate) for 6 years now and it has (or any of the DE's/WM's have) _never_ bugged out on me (many different laptops and desktops as well). I've only once had a destroyed installation and it was completely my fault. I would actually recommend Arch Linux as a great distribution for getting real work done. I know academic research groups that use it as OS for the…

I no longer use Arch Linux due to breakage. In the six years you didn't have a problem when they switched to systemd and bugged all the config files to null? There have been several times when I pacman -Syu and didn't read the front page and there goes 15 minute to 3 hours. I had several HUGE reports due and I ended up having to go on a different machine and git pull to get them done it time. I never recommend Arch L…

You could set up a nice backup and restore system in less than 3 hours to make sure that software upgrade issues never affect your professional work work. I have that for my personal hobby work even though 6 years Arch have made me appreciate the most stable and predictable system I ever used.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by zlynx »

alphadevx wrote: post #45
porfirium wrote: post #34

Wayland out of the box?

I hope so. On Fedora 26 I still have to drop back to X11 in order to get my XPS13 to properly detect my external monitor (DisplayPort), Wayland will only allow the default lowest resolution with no option to increase it, which is very sad on a 28" 4K screen :-( Will give Fedora 27 a go this evening and see...

I have a very similar setup: a Dell m3800 and a 4K external monitor.

Wayland, or rather gnome-shell, seems to do EDID detection a bit differently than Xorg. Getting a higher quality DisplayPort cable fixed it for me. The earlier cable did OK at 30Hz but freaked out trying for 60 Hz. X11 must retry more times, because it would usually manage to make it work for a while on the bad cable, although it still could randomly flicker off and reset the connection.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by jhasse »

raintrees wrote: post #76

Is Adobe's Flash product supported? I use a Flash-based tool for Remote Desktop (400+ systems under management) and difficulties getting Flash to work caused me to give up on Fedora 26. Mint has Flash support from the start...

It's pretty good supported with Firefox. The flash package is part of rpmfusion-nonfree: https://rpmfusion.org/Configuration

I'm using it to play videos on some sites that still use Flash.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by ufo »

ben_jones wrote: post #91

Is there a curated up-to-date list of reasons somewhere on the internet that explains to a naive end-user why he/she should pick a given distro?

Unfortunately, all the "distro picker" resources I have seen so far are of questionable quality. They either are too opinionated (use my favorite distro) or not opinionated enough (listing super niche distros for no good reason).

That said, I agree with what jononor said. Using something similar that what your most helpful Linux-using friend uses trumps picking the most ideal distro and as long as you pick something relatively mainstream there isn't going to be that big of a difference anyway. In my experience, the choice of desktop environment (GNOME / KDE / MATE / etc) is actually more impactful than the choice of distro.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by moosingin3space »

bmurphy1976 wrote: post #106

How's the HIDPI support in Fedora these days? That's the #1 deal breaker for me and every single Linux distro.

On Gnome with Wayland, it works, but only with integer multiples. Gnome 3.28 (which will ship in F28) will have full fractional scaling support if you need that.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by rageear »

rageear wrote: post #121
jcastro wrote: post #8

Does anyone know if the Atomic Host will auto update from 26->27 or is it a manual process?

It will not. The location of the F27 bits are separate from the F26 bits, so you'll have to manually add a new remote and then rebase to that new remote. $ sudo ostree remote add --set=gpgkeypath=/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-27-primary fedora-atomic-27 https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/atomic/27 $ sudo rpm-ostree rebase fedora-atomic-27:fedora/27/x86_64/atomic-host Static deltas are enabled from the last F26…

And here's a handy upgrade guide: http://www.projectatomic.io/blog/2017/11/fedora-atomic-26-to...

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by chmln »

ddavis wrote: post #51
dualogy wrote: post #35

Major props to the Fedora project, really gotta get this off my chest as I had Yet Another "distro-hopping just still ain't worth it even in 2017" moment yesterday. Somehow I have accumulated 4 laptops still-in-running-condition currently. Every rare once in a while, on a lazy weekend or when caught with a cold, I feel I should experimentally check out other distros and/or DE/WM combos than the singular one that has…

I've used Arch Linux (with Gnome 3, i3, dwm, Xfce, Cinnamon, Mate) for 6 years now and it has (or any of the DE's/WM's have) _never_ bugged out on me (many different laptops and desktops as well). I've only once had a destroyed installation and it was completely my fault. I would actually recommend Arch Linux as a great distribution for getting real work done. I know academic research groups that use it as OS for the…

Its all about the perception.

I've been running Arch on testing repos and with the linux-mainline kernel for years now and haven't experienced any major breakage at all.

I believe its down to the reputation of Arch Linux - people perceive it as a "bleeding-edge" and "breaking" OS and thus every even minor problem they experience is attributed to the OS and this perception is reinforced.

The same people might be scourging for hours on ubuntuforums because Ubuntu filled up their /boot partition with obsolete kernels and won't boot anymore. But its still perceived as "stable".

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by baggins367 »

otto_ortega wrote: post #88
subway wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After initially recoiling in horror at running a `curl|bash` installer, I opened the installer in a browser planning on reading the install script. "Helpfully" the script is served up as `binary/octet-stream`, so instead of looking at it in the browser, I got to open it in an editor. From there, it looks like the script does little more than add the `rpmfusion-free-release`, `rpmfusion-nonfree-release` and `folkswith…

You are overly paranoid... The GitHub repo is literally the first thing that shows up when searching for "Fedy" on Google: https://github.com/folkswithhats/fedy If the "--nogpgcheck" bothers you, a simple text replace over the source code solves it. Same with the "curl|bash" thing, you are not obligated to run it that way, you can just clone the repo and run it however you want, it is open source! It is funny the way…

Your suggesting a solution for a very common use case many Fedora users have (i.e. installing skype, viber etc) in a New Release thread on a highly visible forum. This means many people could find and run this code, so I think its warranted to analyze its security instead of dismissing it. I agree it has some bad security practices, which are hard to trust in this day and age.

I don't mean to dump on this project or the people behind it, fair dues to them for putting it together to make peoples lives easier. But widely used software must be built and distributed securely.

Since it is GPL3, I wonder why the authors don't build and distribute it from COPR directly from github? It would solve the same problems, and make it easier to trust.

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