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When Citi Bikes Are Faster Than Taxis in New York City

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Re: When Citi Bikes Are Faster Than Taxis in New York City

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Been biking in both Los Angeles & New York as my commute. In LA driving took 1-2h while biking took 1h. In my experience it's been faster for my commute, however there's still many days where there are no bikes where I live (UWS).

I can highly recommend trying out the Citi bike if you live in New York, it's so cheap and many of the companies pays for it.

Re: When Citi Bikes Are Faster Than Taxis in New York City

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As a pedestrian crossing the straw in NYC, you will typically wait for cars to stop, then walk about 2/3 of the way into the street, then peer into the bike lane to make sure no bikes are coming, then complete your crossing. Most of the bikers, from my experience, do not follow rules such as stopping at a Stop sign or for pedestrians or at their own bike designated stop lights. It may be nice to bike in the cities pa…

I would encourage anybody who thinks cyclocommuters are particularly bad actors to stand on a busy urban street corner and count the percentage of drivers who are actively engaged with their mobile phone. You can identify them easily because they will be shiftily looking downward at sporadic intervals, rolling stop signs, and failing to notice traffic light changes. In addition to the phone-related dangerous behavior…

I wonder how much of the rise of bike culture and disdain of driving in some of the young demographic comes from the problem of smart phone addiction. As highlighted in your first paragraph, many people don't seem to have the discipline to be able to just not look at their phone for 30 minutes while they drive somewhere. Biking could actually be a relief for some of these people as they have a socially good excuse to be out of contact for some part of the day. Sort of like how some people enjoy airplane trips because no one can call them.

Re: When Citi Bikes Are Faster Than Taxis in New York City

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I would love to bike, but the major issue is that every single person I know who's biked for more than 1 year has gotten into some type of accident (around 10 people), whether car, car door, or poorly maintained road. These are all 30s and work-at-the-office types so maybe they're not the most coordinated, but they are also not doing stupid shit.

It's now generally thought that, even without a helmet, the positive health effects of biking outweigh the dangers from accidents.

And while everyone who bikes will take a fall at some point, the vast majority of those actually result in only a few scratches. I know it seems terribly scary to imagine falling of a bike. But I've done so twice in about 12,000k, and the joy of biking far outweighs the pain I've suffered.

Re: When Citi Bikes Are Faster Than Taxis in New York City

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What kind of e-bikes do people have in Canada? Electric-assist types, or ones with a throttle? In Europe the assist-type is way more common, limited to 25 km/h and at least in Germany the stereotypical user is an elder person that now suddenly can go a bit faster and go comfortably up hills.

I've seen both, the Electric-assist seem less common [or maybe just harder to identify?]. The ones that I see as not really fitting in are the larger ones that look kind of like an electric Vespa.

They seem to be the worst of both worlds, I think there has been a lot of controversy about them using bike lanes in The Netherlands lately.

Re: When Citi Bikes Are Faster Than Taxis in New York City

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A million times this! I live in Chicago and am an avid biker (been doored by a cab, right of passage i guess?) I am one of the few who stops at stop signs and slows down or stops at cross walks to watch for pedestrians. I attend my local alderman's meetings to push for more protected bike lanes which we are now getting, but my fellow bikers are making us all look bad wrt following the rules of the road. I can't tell…

As a cyclist yourself, I'm sure you're familiar with intersections where the sensors controlling the lights do not sense bikes. I think the best way forward is for more states to adopt Idaho's policy: cyclists can treat stop signs like yield signs, and treat red lights like stop signs. [1] If I'm riding toward a stop sign at a clearly deserted intersection, I would very much like to roll through at 10~15 MPH without…

Couldn't agree with you more, and I think the only part of my post that hit a nerve with you was related to fines for running red lights, which I should have been clearer about. (in Chicago we don't have those fancy stop light sensors) I too do an Idaho stop when approaching a 4 way stop that has no traffic, it makes the most sense. My main complaint as I live on one of the main bike corridors of Chicago is after a light turns red there are normally a herd of bikers that roll through causing traffic to sit still while waiting for them to exit the intersection. This screws up traffic and makes me irate, just as it would seeing car after car run the red light. We also have a lot of street retail which leads to a bunch of crosswalks, with tourists and children abound. Bikers come flying though crosswalks here and I've seen multiple accidents because of it. When a car hits a bike, the bike always loses, just the same as when a bike hits a pedestrian, the pedestrian always loses. I don't understand how my fellow cyclists can't see that as we complain about cars and their behavior.

Re: When Citi Bikes Are Faster Than Taxis in New York City

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IMHO, for the most ideal city experience, transit options should be prioritized in this order: 1) pedestrians, 2) buses, 3) bikes, 4) cars. Biking being faster than motoring is excellent news towards this ideal.

You got 2 and 3 switched up. It's very simple:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5j6rPlU4AEizP6.jpg:large

Re: When Citi Bikes Are Faster Than Taxis in New York City

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post #4

As a pedestrian crossing the straw in NYC, you will typically wait for cars to stop, then walk about 2/3 of the way into the street, then peer into the bike lane to make sure no bikes are coming, then complete your crossing. Most of the bikers, from my experience, do not follow rules such as stopping at a Stop sign or for pedestrians or at their own bike designated stop lights. It may be nice to bike in the cities pa…

It's a similar situation in Philly, every day I watch bikers run red lights and stop signs or speeding in a 25. I've yet to see a cop pull over someone on a bike

You see bikers speeding in a 25mph? Are all the bikers in your city national-level endurance athletes on TT bikes?

It's so sad that people born into a world where cars are everywhere just have no concept anymore of what is human. You put a random dude on a bike and they are never going to average 20 mph, struggle to even get to 18 mph. Barreling up 15% inclines in SF at 30 mph is not normal.

Re: When Citi Bikes Are Faster Than Taxis in New York City

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You cannot seriously expect the rules of the road to be the same for multi-ton vehicles capable of 50+ mph speeds and human-powered vehicles that weigh 200lbs tops / max out at 20 mph.

Even if you do, the bikes are not going to kill you . Someone on a bike breaking the "rules of the road" is pretty much only risking his own safety, someone in a car it's almost always other people that die.

   Even if you do, the bikes are not going to kill you.
This is not true. It is less likely than with automobiles, but pedestrians are killed by bicycles from time to time. Obviously bicycle-bicycle accidents that happen in traffic are also dangerous.

Re: When Citi Bikes Are Faster Than Taxis in New York City

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You should ask your local government for dedicated biking infrastructure then.

Dedicated bike lanes have actually been going out of style. Especially those using half of the sidewalk with only symbolic separation from pedestrians are plagued by the inattentiveness of pedestrians, and are usually too narrow to pass other bikes. The pavement is also at higher risk of damage, because these lanes are usually right next to any trees lining the roads, and their roots quickly create breaks, bumps and…

A painted strip in the rightmost car lane is the worst bike-lane solution, it's too easy for cars to drift into it. It doesn't feel safe, especially as they're often too narrow.

Proper, separated lanes, with kerbstones between both the cars and the pedestrians is best. It's also the most expensive.

There are some examples from Copenhagen here: http://nyc.streetsblog.org/2006/10/04/notes-on-bicycling-in-...

Re: When Citi Bikes Are Faster Than Taxis in New York City

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post #28

I would love to bike, but the major issue is that every single person I know who's biked for more than 1 year has gotten into some type of accident (around 10 people), whether car, car door, or poorly maintained road. These are all 30s and work-at-the-office types so maybe they're not the most coordinated, but they are also not doing stupid shit.

It's now generally thought that, even without a helmet, the positive health effects of biking outweigh the dangers from accidents. And while everyone who bikes will take a fall at some point, the vast majority of those actually result in only a few scratches. I know it seems terribly scary to imagine falling of a bike. But I've done so twice in about 12,000k, and the joy of biking far outweighs the pain I've suffered…

I think that's probably true of all biking, but do you know if that's true for biking in NYC specifically? Also, if there's a 100% chance of a 1 year increase in lifespan, but a 3% chance of a 33 year loss, would you take it? If you are optimizing for maximum years over a large population the answer is yes, but I'm only optimizing for one life. It's also not necessarily true that e.g. age 50 -> 51 is equal in value with age 80 -> 81.
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