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Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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Post by vukk »

mirimir wrote: post #100
vetinari wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? Many consider kosher/halal to be a torture.

Yes, I know. But consider that bleeding to death is also considered to be relatively painless, as a suicide method.

Warning: descriptions of suicide.

I feel like this argument collapses when given any serious thought. Mainly because even without experiencing either, I'd consider drawing a warm bath and cutting your own wrists a very different experience compared to hanging upside down and somebody else cutting your throat.

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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Post by pjmlp »

idiot74 wrote: post #89
pjmlp wrote: post #87

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I don't need to feel good about anything.

Yet you accused people trying to reduce their impact on the environment as doing it just to 'feel good'; why do you assume they need to feel good about anything?.. I don't think it's constructive to disparage people who are attempting to reduce their impact on the environment.

No, my point even if badly worded is that I usually see this arguments as if eating meat and fish is bad, but everything else is perfectly fine without any kind of industrialization, chemicals, antibiotics or genetic modifications being used on vegetables.

Closing the eyes to the vegetables industrialization is what I meant by feeling good.

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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Post by jherdman »

ncr100 wrote: post #15

Fake meat cannot come soon enough - poor bird was encouraged to grow in an unhealthy manner resulting in dead tissue inside it while it was still alive. I wonder if it was painful for the bird having this tough dead tissue at the core of its breasts.

> Fake meat cannot come soon enough - poor bird was encouraged to grow in an unhealthy manner resulting in dead tissue inside it while it was still alive.

It's really interesting to me that you reached for fake meat instead of better farming practices.

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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Post by tartuffe78 »

Hexcles wrote: post #118

Animal welfare aside, I find people in North America really in favour of chicken breast, much more than other parts, say chicken thigh. Yet I myself think chicken thigh tastes much better, especially with the skin (yet again it is usually skinless in supermarkets here, unfortunately). Is it because of nutrition (percentage of fat/protein etc.)? On top of that, chicken feet are considered unacceptable by many...

I think it has to do with being told fat is bad for so many years. Obviously it is in excess, but now as people come more aware of carbohydrates and other issues with an unbalanced diet things may change.

My wife will only eat the breast, because she doesn't like the greasier feel of dark meat. I'll eat either but don't have a strong preference so we mainly just get breasts.

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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Post by jerguismi »

hellofunk wrote: post #117

People just eat way too much chicken. The numbers of chicken consumed every year in most western nations is astounding. And those poor birds, the way they are packed to the point of not even being able to walk while they are raised, it's really a lot more disgusting than the final product shown in this article.

Do you think red meat is better? I've been trying to avoid red meat lately for health reasons, and it is very difficult because for many restaurant major of the items seem to contain red meat. I end up eating lots of chicken and fish.

Going vegetarian would be probably best...

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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Post by tartuffe78 »

jherdman wrote: post #123
ncr100 wrote: post #15

Fake meat cannot come soon enough - poor bird was encouraged to grow in an unhealthy manner resulting in dead tissue inside it while it was still alive. I wonder if it was painful for the bird having this tough dead tissue at the core of its breasts.

> Fake meat cannot come soon enough - poor bird was encouraged to grow in an unhealthy manner resulting in dead tissue inside it while it was still alive. It's really interesting to me that you reached for fake meat instead of better farming practices.

In the long run fake meat will probably become more affordable than better farming practices with the size of our population.

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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Post by jerguismi »

bambax wrote: post #3

Brown meat is much much more delicious; why would anyone prefer white meat is beyond me. And the irony is that, in buying "heavy breasted chicken", customers pay for something they can't consume (assuming chicken is priced by the pound in the US).

> Brown meat is much much more delicious; why would anyone prefer white meat is beyond me.

Colon cancer?

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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Post by throwanem »

projectorlochsa wrote: post #98
jsz0 wrote: post #52

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> "I can't wait until we can grow zombies to pick cotton, then all the slaves can finally go free." Forcing (?) billions of people to change their eating habits is a far more difficult task than a quaint little Civil War to settle slavery.

In absolute numbers there are more slaves today than in any moment in history of humanity. Speciesist and anthropocentric mentality that is reinforced by world's most popular ideologies - shallow postmodernism, christianity and other religious ideologies - is what keeps this stuff alive. It is a shame war is necessary to force people to abandon congitive dissonance and start making a better place of this world. At le…

> It is a shame war is necessary to force people to abandon congitive dissonance and start making a better place of this world.

Yeah, there's nothing cognitively dissonant about the idea of making the world a better place through mass slaughter. You know, while we're talking of ideology keeping terrible ideas alive.

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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Post by krona »

danielpatrick wrote: post #120
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #97

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> it was forcefully bred by a corporation that treated it like trash to increase their financial gains The same could be said for plants.

No. That's why it is very much legal for me to chop up a tree that I find on my property but not a dog.

I don't know where you live but in the UK, dogs are (in law) personal property and discounting welfare issues, you can do what you want with them if you're the owner.

Furthermore, farmers can kill your dog (humanly) on his land if it is causing distress to his animals. In law this is a lawful excuse to cause criminal damage. There are all kinds of lawful excuses. For instance, a person (usually a farmer) is free to kill your horse, humanly, if keeping it alive is causing a material financial loss.

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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Post by ceejayoz »

Chris2048 wrote: post #101
pjc50 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real, human equivalent is "HeLa", taken without her consent from Henrietta Lacks in the 50s and grown endlessly since then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa

Why mention consent? The supreme court ruled it was not required.

The Supreme Court has had its share of bad rulings. http://blogs.findlaw.com/supreme_court/2015/10/13-worst-supr...
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