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Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by timr »

Kalium wrote: post #118
timr wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If weight loss is your goal, it's actually cheaper and easier and far, far more pleasant to just make smoothies for a couple of meals a day. Here's an easy one that I make all the time: * 1/2 cup yogurt * 1/2 cup juice (apple, orange, whatever) * 1 banana, peeled * 3-4 frozen strawberries * 1/2 cup frozen blueberries Toss in blender. Blend. Consume. Rinse out blender. From assembling ingredients to rinsing the blende…

Perhaps I don't subscribe to your narrow definition of humanity. I found bland nutrient goo perfect for my needs. It meant no shopping, no dealing with perishables, and other logistical and organizational benefits. Have you considered the possibility that perhaps not everyone thinks like you?

Another interesting trait of humans is that once they've subscribed to an opinion, they'll tie themselves in knots looking for ways to avoid changing their mind despite all contradictory evidence.

Is it possible that you really don't care about one of the core biological experiences that define human civilizations throughout history? The act that differentiates our cultures, has driven migration, evolution, wars and exploration? The act that is so ingrained in our biology that meal preparation is central to every human settlement?

Yeah, that's possible. It's also possible that you're a blowhard. But hey man, knock yourself out. I was just saying that it's pretty damned easy to make a smoothie.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by Kalium »

timr wrote: post #121
Kalium wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps I don't subscribe to your narrow definition of humanity. I found bland nutrient goo perfect for my needs. It meant no shopping, no dealing with perishables, and other logistical and organizational benefits. Have you considered the possibility that perhaps not everyone thinks like you?

Another interesting trait of humans is that once they've subscribed to an opinion, they'll tie themselves in knots looking for ways to avoid changing their mind despite all contradictory evidence. Is it possible that you really don't care about one of the core biological experiences that define human civilizations throughout history? The act that differentiates our cultures, has driven migration, evolution, wars and…

You also declared that I had opted "to throw that part of your humanity away unnecessarily".

But nevermind that. Yes, it's easy to make a smoothie. Just not sufficiently easy that I preferred it to Soylent, which was a highly personal decision for me to make and relies upon choices and information not available to you.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by pc86 »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #88
deegles wrote: post #84

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I do think they are wasteful, but it doesn't bother me as much because the consumption pattern is different. I'll have maybe 3 bottled drinks per month. On the other hand, Soylent 2.0 means I'd consume about 6 bottles per day (2400 calories). That's 2,190 bottles per year.

What are you eating instead of Soylent that is packaging free?

Depending on where you live (certainly not SF or NYC) it's quite common to get most or a large portion of your vegetables from the back yard. It could easily account for 10-25% of one's diet during the growing season.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by geofft »

mackwic wrote: post #115
untog wrote: post #76

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I fear that people aren't going to get the reference here...

I don't. Care to explain ?

Snarky reference to this amazing blog post by the Soylent inventor:

http://robrhinehart.com/?p=1331

It uses less water to order new clothes from cheap labor in China than to launder them, so therefore the right thing to do is to buy new clothes and ... donate the old ones to charity where ... magically they don't have to be washed???

If this was from anyone other than the guy who thought inventing Soylent was a good idea, I'd call it a masterful work of satire.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by DanBC »

timr wrote: post #113
DanBC wrote: post #100

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You've just poisoned people. Rice is not suitable for storing over a few days, and reheating the rice correctly does not destroy the toxin. http://www.food.gov.uk/northern-ireland/nutritionni/niyoungp...

Yeah, the "put your leftovers in the fridge" part is really impossibly difficult. Guess we all have to eat bland nutrient goo now.

That's not sufficient to prevent food poisoning from rice. Cold rice is a leading cause of food poisoning. Telling people that rice can be kept for several days is dangerous.

> Guess we all have to eat bland nutrient goo now.

I fucking hate Soylent (the prodct and the company). My hatred for Soylent doesn't make it okay for Cryoshon to give dangerous advice.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by sigma2015 »

Nickoladze wrote: post #51
sigma2015 wrote: post #42

My favorite argument for food being more than just a percentual composition of nutrients is the fact that your gut is effectively able to smell. > Olfactory receptor responding to gut microbiota-derived signals plays a role in renin secretion and blood pressure regulation [ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3600440/ ] Beyond my scepticism regarding the long-term benefit of a simplification of eating down to…

My mindset is that I live alone and I heavily dislike cooking food. When not consuming soylent, I live entirely off of take-out and delivery food. There is almost no way that Soylent isn't more healthy than the stuff I would otherwise eat.

Then you should reevaluate your eating options.

There is more than cooked or take-away or Soylent.

How about this:

- Whole-wheat bread

- Avocado

- Smoked fish

- a piece of feta

- an apple

- a banana

Just one of many cold-dish very healthy meals. A good mix of everything - carbon hydrates, proteins, fats, ruffage, vitamins, minerals - enjoy.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by Thimothy »

geofft wrote: post #124
mackwic wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't. Care to explain ?

Snarky reference to this amazing blog post by the Soylent inventor: http://robrhinehart.com/?p=1331 It uses less water to order new clothes from cheap labor in China than to launder them, so therefore the right thing to do is to buy new clothes and ... donate the old ones to charity where ... magically they don't have to be washed??? If this was from anyone other than the guy who thought inventing Soylent was a good…

If you look at other posts of the guy, it's more clear that is satire. Hard to say from just that post.

http://robrhinehart.com/?p=1005

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by cryoshon »

DanBC wrote: post #125
timr wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, the "put your leftovers in the fridge" part is really impossibly difficult. Guess we all have to eat bland nutrient goo now.

That's not sufficient to prevent food poisoning from rice. Cold rice is a leading cause of food poisoning. Telling people that rice can be kept for several days is dangerous. > Guess we all have to eat bland nutrient goo now. I fucking hate Soylent (the prodct and the company). My hatred for Soylent doesn't make it okay for Cryoshon to give dangerous advice.

>implying anyone is actually going to follow a joke recipe written in dripping jest that goes as far as to say shelters, spoons, refrigerators, and bowls aren't necessary for eating food

Yep, I've poisoned real, living people.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by cryoshon »

frewsxcv wrote: post #75
cryoshon wrote: post #74

Please stop this culture of insanity, it is destructive. I get it, Soylent is targeting the "100X engineer" crowd who are supposed to be unflappably dedicated near-godlike ubermenschen. I get that people need to telegraph "how busy" they are by constantly talking about it to everyone with ears. I understand that people need to communicate high-value to each other, and do this by referencing how much responsibility th…

'Nobody in the real world is so "busy" that they can't stop what they are doing for a few minutes and prepare and consume real food in order to meet their body's demands.' Compare the preparation time for preparing a meal that satisfies oneself nutritionally compared with Soylent. It's not just about spending more time working, it's about having time to do other things like reading or playing music. Also, why are you…

The median (and correct) response is to read or play music for thirty less minutes to prepare real nutritious food. Come on. Nobody's time at home is factored down to the minute.
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