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Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

#91

Post by underyx »

cryoshon wrote: post #74

Please stop this culture of insanity, it is destructive. I get it, Soylent is targeting the "100X engineer" crowd who are supposed to be unflappably dedicated near-godlike ubermenschen. I get that people need to telegraph "how busy" they are by constantly talking about it to everyone with ears. I understand that people need to communicate high-value to each other, and do this by referencing how much responsibility th…

I ate two months' worth of Joylent (a Dutch version of soylent) this year, three weeks consecutively at the longest. I had an amazing time with it:

- It was cheaper than what I normally spend on food each day.

- The fact that I had no groceries to do, no dishes, and no cooking made my lazy self amazingly happy.

- I had a way more balanced diet than I would normally have done and this clearly showed both in my general mood, and also how energetic I was. I haven't been able to wake up in the morning as easily as then ever since.

- I also loved the taste! I think it took me no more than 3 servings to just build up a craving for the drinks.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

#92

Post by Kalium »

cryoshon wrote: post #86
MarcusVorenus wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's fascinating how hostile some people can get towards Soylent. It's like they think the mere existence of it is an attack to the core of their identity. I wonder if it's just insecurity triggered by people liking something that they don't like or some other type of psychological defense mechanism.

For me, it's hostility toward the race to the bottom and accompanying dehumanization that Soylent is nodding to. I really don't understand people who think positively about Soylent. It's bland nutrient paste, similar to the kind fed to coma patients. How exciting and DISRUPTIVE!!!

I used Soylent to lose weight. It helped me gain very precise control over caloric intake.

You know what? I didn't care that it was a bland nutrient slurry. I cared about the "dehumanizing" control it gave me. I cared about the options it brought to my life. Discovering significant extra time in my day by not cooking 8x a week was a nice bonus.

What I'm really seeing in your comments is that you're struggling to understand how someone could think so utterly differently from you.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

#93

Post by oliv__ »

underyx wrote: post #91
cryoshon wrote: post #74

Please stop this culture of insanity, it is destructive. I get it, Soylent is targeting the "100X engineer" crowd who are supposed to be unflappably dedicated near-godlike ubermenschen. I get that people need to telegraph "how busy" they are by constantly talking about it to everyone with ears. I understand that people need to communicate high-value to each other, and do this by referencing how much responsibility th…

I ate two months' worth of Joylent (a Dutch version of soylent) this year, three weeks consecutively at the longest. I had an amazing time with it: - It was cheaper than what I normally spend on food each day. - The fact that I had no groceries to do, no dishes, and no cooking made my lazy self amazingly happy. - I had a way more balanced diet than I would normally have done and this clearly showed both in my general…

"I had a way more balanced diet than I would normally have done"

That's kinda sad

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

#94

Post by splawn »

tunesmith wrote: post #80

I'd love to see less snark/hostility/FUD on these Soylent threads. 1. No, Soylent is not the same as Ensure with different packaging/marketing 2. No, Soylent does not have illegal levels of heavy metals, nor did it in the past. 3. People don't tend to eat nutritionally complete meals every meal of the day. Measuring Soylent against this ideal is beside the point. Soylent is inarguably better than coke and cheetos, th…

This isn't meant to be hostile snark FUD. Hopefully you know the answer or have a link that addresses my question. As far as your first point... I am asking because I know someone that sometimes has trouble keeping food down and their doctor recommended them to use Ensure, but they didn't like it. I was thinking about telling them about Soylent, of course I would have them ask their doctor first. Anyways, What makes it functionally different than Ensure?

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

#95

Post by tunesmith »

splawn wrote: post #94
tunesmith wrote: post #80

I'd love to see less snark/hostility/FUD on these Soylent threads. 1. No, Soylent is not the same as Ensure with different packaging/marketing 2. No, Soylent does not have illegal levels of heavy metals, nor did it in the past. 3. People don't tend to eat nutritionally complete meals every meal of the day. Measuring Soylent against this ideal is beside the point. Soylent is inarguably better than coke and cheetos, th…

This isn't meant to be hostile snark FUD. Hopefully you know the answer or have a link that addresses my question. As far as your first point... I am asking because I know someone that sometimes has trouble keeping food down and their doctor recommended them to use Ensure, but they didn't like it. I was thinking about telling them about Soylent, of course I would have them ask their doctor first. Anyways, What makes…

If I were to try to give a complete answer, I'd probably spend fifteen minutes googling "Ensure vs Soylent" - there are some good matches there through discussion boards that analyze the ingredient breakdowns, also some replies from the soylent people too. Ensure is definitely more expensive in those analyses, and that's from before soylent's recent price drop. Beyond that, it appears to be a rather different ingredient list - looks like Ensure doesn't have much in the way of fiber, has more sugar, etc.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

#96

Post by JohnTHaller »

cryoshon wrote: post #74

Please stop this culture of insanity, it is destructive. I get it, Soylent is targeting the "100X engineer" crowd who are supposed to be unflappably dedicated near-godlike ubermenschen. I get that people need to telegraph "how busy" they are by constantly talking about it to everyone with ears. I understand that people need to communicate high-value to each other, and do this by referencing how much responsibility th…

Why does every Soylent news story come along with the requisite 'Soylent doesn't make sense to me so it can't make sense for anyone' post? Stop for a moment and remember that everyone's lives, finances, schedules, priorities, etc are different.

I use Soylent 1.5 along with my girlfriend. It's a faster, easier, and less expensive way to have breakfast (and sometimes lunch) each day. It's especially handy when funds are tight. It's easier to prepare and far easier to track calories for those of us shedding a few pounds. And it's more complete nutrient-wise than what the majority of Americans ate for breakfast.

I don't do it so I can work more 16 hour days changing the world at Hooli. I do it so I can enjoy my life more. It helps me have the funds and the time to relax and enjoy the meals I do prepare or go out for with friends.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

#97

Post by JohnTHaller »

Kalium wrote: post #92
cryoshon wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, it's hostility toward the race to the bottom and accompanying dehumanization that Soylent is nodding to. I really don't understand people who think positively about Soylent. It's bland nutrient paste, similar to the kind fed to coma patients. How exciting and DISRUPTIVE!!!

I used Soylent to lose weight. It helped me gain very precise control over caloric intake. You know what? I didn't care that it was a bland nutrient slurry. I cared about the "dehumanizing" control it gave me. I cared about the options it brought to my life. Discovering significant extra time in my day by not cooking 8x a week was a nice bonus. What I'm really seeing in your comments is that you're struggling to unde…

Pay it no mind. It's the "I don't understand it and it doesn't specifically work for my life so it must be wrong" mindset. I've used Soylent as you have and it frees up time and funds as well as making calorie tracking easier.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

#98

Post by erikpukinskis »

cryoshon wrote: post #90
erikpukinskis wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are not accurately describing the complexity of cooking for oneself. This is common amongst people who cook for themselves: you have forgotten just how much skill you bring to bear throughout the week. The first step is not, as you describe, taking a few minutes to prepare food. The first step is buying the raw ingredients. No one will really tell you how to do this. Good home cooks have dozens of menu plans in t…

Here is a 30 minute plan to feeding yourself for a long time without any real effort: 0. Have transportation (or a nearby store), the ability to boil water, and a large vessel to put water and food into. You may also want a sheltered place to cook/consume the food, though this is not required. 1. Go to the nearest food store. Anything larger than a kiosk will do. 2. Buy bags of rice. Any kind will do. 3. Buy bags of…

I really dig your "we can cook" attitude, but those 500 words aren't going to get people where you think they will.

I think it's a great MVP though and with some usability testing and a little bit of software we could get there.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

#99

Post by drewrv »

cryoshon wrote: post #90
erikpukinskis wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are not accurately describing the complexity of cooking for oneself. This is common amongst people who cook for themselves: you have forgotten just how much skill you bring to bear throughout the week. The first step is not, as you describe, taking a few minutes to prepare food. The first step is buying the raw ingredients. No one will really tell you how to do this. Good home cooks have dozens of menu plans in t…

Here is a 30 minute plan to feeding yourself for a long time without any real effort: 0. Have transportation (or a nearby store), the ability to boil water, and a large vessel to put water and food into. You may also want a sheltered place to cook/consume the food, though this is not required. 1. Go to the nearest food store. Anything larger than a kiosk will do. 2. Buy bags of rice. Any kind will do. 3. Buy bags of…

I don't need an excuse to eat Soylent. I'm free to eat whatever I want. Why do my food choices bother you so much?

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

#100

Post by DanBC »

cryoshon wrote: post #90
erikpukinskis wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are not accurately describing the complexity of cooking for oneself. This is common amongst people who cook for themselves: you have forgotten just how much skill you bring to bear throughout the week. The first step is not, as you describe, taking a few minutes to prepare food. The first step is buying the raw ingredients. No one will really tell you how to do this. Good home cooks have dozens of menu plans in t…

Here is a 30 minute plan to feeding yourself for a long time without any real effort: 0. Have transportation (or a nearby store), the ability to boil water, and a large vessel to put water and food into. You may also want a sheltered place to cook/consume the food, though this is not required. 1. Go to the nearest food store. Anything larger than a kiosk will do. 2. Buy bags of rice. Any kind will do. 3. Buy bags of…

You've just poisoned people. Rice is not suitable for storing over a few days, and reheating the rice correctly does not destroy the toxin.

http://www.food.gov.uk/northern-ireland/nutritionni/niyoungp...

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