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It cost me more than 30 seconds to load your website at the first time.
thanks for letting me know - is it better now? I just enabled oplog.
Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0
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Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0
#112Meteor and bootstrap combined have made it awesome to prototype new ideas. Everything is very smooth and as a beginner web developer I'm not banging my head against the wall writing large amounts of code to link various frameworks together. A few hours a day for a week have already generated real progress with a startup idea, which would have taken me weeks using angular/express/mongo/node separately. As someone with…
Is the real time nature of Meteor important to your product? I ask because I'm considering trying Meteor to prototype some ideas none of which particularly need real-time data updates in the client. Would I be better off with some alternative framework or is meteor still super quick to pick up and get stuff done for 'regular' web apps? Being able to knock an idea out quickly vastly outweighs any kind of scalability c…
Meteor is built around reactivity, and there is some overhead built in to the platform to make it possible, but it's pretty easy to design things so your app isn't overloaded by trying to "real time all the things".
The simplest step is to structure publications so as to deliver the least amount of reactive data needed at each step of the user experience. Another important approach is to understand what forces re-computations and re-renderings and try to minimize them when you can.
It's also possible to serve non-reactive data (meteor-dumb-collections) and obviate many performance concerns related to reactivity.
The speed and relative ease of working with Meteor makes this approach well worth it to me.
Also worth noting is that many of the production apps built with Meteor are not billed as a "real time solution to x". I suspect they have also spent a good amount of time designing around reactivity so they only take advantage of it where it's useful.
Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0
#113I think I might give Meteor a shot. For a long time I have been working with AngularJS and Node.js. Recently I have been working exclusively with React.js + Flux and Node.js to build isomorphic web applications. I like the fact Meteor is isomorphic by default and comes with everything you need. I have always somewhat seen it as this outlier, a great looking framework but lacking the same vocality that Facebook and Go…
Meteor is kind of isomorphic, but not in a very useful way. It does not do server-side rendering unless you include the hacky phantomjs module, last I checked.
Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0
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Why aren't these great books turned into the official documentation if the current official docs are lacking in so much quality?
Because that sort of "consulting economy" is the open source business model de jure.
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I have a hard time understanding how meteor is comparable to angular or ember given that it appears to be full stack in every way, whereas angular or ember I can add to my existing stack. Meteor has always seemed interesting but the fact that it is hosted makes it a non starter. There's too many scaling questions that a marketing site will never put me at ease, I'll need to see some solid case studies and ideally a c…
You can choose to use Meteor's hosting or you can do it yourself. There is a great open source Product Hunt/Hacker News clone application built on Meteor called Telescope - http://www.telesc.pe/ - I am self hosting it for a site that I run about Javascript, I haven't needed to do anything except styling tweaks, but it is running on a simple DigitalOcean VPS quite fine.
Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a hard time understanding how meteor is comparable to angular or ember given that it appears to be full stack in every way, whereas angular or ember I can add to my existing stack. Meteor has always seemed interesting but the fact that it is hosted makes it a non starter. There's too many scaling questions that a marketing site will never put me at ease, I'll need to see some solid case studies and ideally a c…
Is it me or are a lot of the objections seem they come from peeps that have not tried it for more than a day? More assumed opinions and quick conclusions rather than educated and informed. I am stunned at the confidence of these opinions too. Puts the posters in a bad light. The major takeaway... it shows Meteor needs to do a better job educating the developer community.... and .... haters gonna hate ;)
Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0
#117Meteor and bootstrap combined have made it awesome to prototype new ideas. Everything is very smooth and as a beginner web developer I'm not banging my head against the wall writing large amounts of code to link various frameworks together. A few hours a day for a week have already generated real progress with a startup idea, which would have taken me weeks using angular/express/mongo/node separately. As someone with…
Is the real time nature of Meteor important to your product? I ask because I'm considering trying Meteor to prototype some ideas none of which particularly need real-time data updates in the client. Would I be better off with some alternative framework or is meteor still super quick to pick up and get stuff done for 'regular' web apps? Being able to knock an idea out quickly vastly outweighs any kind of scalability c…
The lack of free time was a big incentive for me also. I suggest at least taking the hour or so to go through the tutorial. It was very straightforward and I was able to breeze through it with little to no web developer experience, and instantly be able to use the simple concepts I learned to start working on my own project.
Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is the real time nature of Meteor important to your product? I ask because I'm considering trying Meteor to prototype some ideas none of which particularly need real-time data updates in the client. Would I be better off with some alternative framework or is meteor still super quick to pick up and get stuff done for 'regular' web apps? Being able to knock an idea out quickly vastly outweighs any kind of scalability c…
That's a good question. I've been learning and using Meteor for a few months and my projects do not require reactivity at their core. Meteor is built around reactivity, and there is some overhead built in to the platform to make it possible, but it's pretty easy to design things so your app isn't overloaded by trying to "real time all the things". The simplest step is to structure publications so as to deliver the le…
Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is the real time nature of Meteor important to your product? I ask because I'm considering trying Meteor to prototype some ideas none of which particularly need real-time data updates in the client. Would I be better off with some alternative framework or is meteor still super quick to pick up and get stuff done for 'regular' web apps? Being able to knock an idea out quickly vastly outweighs any kind of scalability c…
Not really, for me it has been kind of a bonus added on top of an already great framework. So far I have really enjoyed it just for the fact that I can load a bunch of test data into Mongo and instantly see it work with my UI. However since I have read many people complain about performance and scalability in meteor I have tried to minimize the mount of database reads and reactive data I am dealing with for any one p…
Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0
#120I think I might give Meteor a shot. For a long time I have been working with AngularJS and Node.js. Recently I have been working exclusively with React.js + Flux and Node.js to build isomorphic web applications. I like the fact Meteor is isomorphic by default and comes with everything you need. I have always somewhat seen it as this outlier, a great looking framework but lacking the same vocality that Facebook and Go…
> I like the fact Meteor is isomorphic by default and comes with everything you need. Meteor is kind of isomorphic, but not in a very useful way. It does not do server-side rendering unless you include the hacky phantomjs module, last I checked.