This completely caught me by suprise. Will .NET see a comeback now? Or is it too little too late? In any event, this is a huge move for Microsoft who has historically avoided open source(ive always thought of yhem as the anti-open-source company).
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Re: Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform
#112It's funny how Nadella has moved the needle more for developers in 9 months than Ballmer did in the last decade or so, and all that without running around like a madman too. Pretty good. I'll never switch back to MS for what they've done in the past but it is nice to see them try hard to become a nicer player in the software eco-system. Google and Apple need some other party to keep them sharp, it might as well be MS…
I am sure Nadella deserves credit, but I think the real genius behind this is ScottGu. Whoever it is, its a welcome change.
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#113You were beaten to the punch:
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#114Google cache link: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://...
This cache link gives me a 404 :( and the actual link is not working as well.
I've updated the link. Does it work better now?
Btw, if you copy the original link into the Google search field, you get a search result with the page, and then you can just view the cached version by clicking on the small green arrow at the right side of the URL.
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#115I do wonder what this means for the mono project
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#116I want to believe this, but I just don't. .NET is so much more than just the core libraries. There will be a long time until it's on the same level as Java. I hope Microsoft proves me wrong, of course (C# is an awesome language, F# is not bad either), but I will believe this when I see a distribution of Visual Studio running both on Mac/Linux and on Windows (i.e. the same executable, same as Java).
I don't see anywhere in the announcement that Visual Studio will be cross platform. That would require porting WPF, which isn't mentioned as being ported. It looks like they are concentrating on making web platforms multiplatform.
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#117I do wonder what this means for the mono project
They seem to be cooperating with Xamarin, to some extent:
"To further support cross-platform mobile development with .NET, as part of their strategic partnership, Microsoft and Xamarin announced a new streamlined experience for installing Xamarin from Visual Studio, as well as announced the addition of Visual Studio support to its free offering Xamarin Starter Edition — available later in the year."
http://news.microsoft.com/2014/11/12/microsoft-takes-net-ope...
Re: Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform
#118It's funny how Nadella has moved the needle more for developers in 9 months than Ballmer did in the last decade or so, and all that without running around like a madman too. Pretty good. I'll never switch back to MS for what they've done in the past but it is nice to see them try hard to become a nicer player in the software eco-system. Google and Apple need some other party to keep them sharp, it might as well be MS…
I am sure Nadella deserves credit, but I think the real genius behind this is ScottGu. Whoever it is, its a welcome change.
Policy is made at the top. I can't imagine this happening under Ballmer, though I agree with you that others (Miguel for one) have a lot to do with this.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would you only be convinced if the IDE runs on both platforms. You realize that the IDE and the CLR/Runtime are two different things right?
Any non-trivial GUI program will do, really.
Doesn't MonoDevelop count then?
Or do you mean an application from Microsoft? Because I believe Microsoft has actually been using Mono (via Xamarin) to publish applications on iOS.
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#120This is epic. Peter Thiel was right about creative Monopoly. The new Microsoft under Satya Nadella has totally changed the direction of Microsoft in just a few months. They had one of the best and rock solid development platforms and research division, and loyal customers. The new Azure cloud (Online + On Premise) along with the opening of .Net will change the playing field. I'm sure this is a great new for us develo…
I'd pin more of this on Scott Guthrie and Scott Hanselman, really. They have been championing this kind of behavior for years within MS.