the lead dev and architect for OneGet jumped on the reddit thread yesterday and answered a bunch of questions: http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/2khkpo/windows_10_... using the username : fearthecowboy (his twitter is the same, @fearthecowboy ) This was the top comment: http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/2khkpo/windows_10_...
Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
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Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good job at not reading the article! Had you read it, you would've learned that the commands work like this: Find-Package Firefox Install-Package Firefox I admit it's not as easy as on e.g. Debian: sudo apt-get remove iceweasel sudo echo deb http://packages.linuxmint.com debian import >>/etc/apt/sources.list sudo gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 3EE67F3D0FF405B2 sudo gpg --export 3EE67F3D0FF405B2 > 3EE67F3D0FF…
This is a deliberately contrived example, the only line that matter is the last one: sudo apt-get install firefox
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#113But why "Install-Package", "Add-Package" and "Update-Package" - it's not like you can install, add or update anything else with this tool.
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
> ...someone says that the next year will be a year of Linux. Who says that unironically in 2014, though?
Given that more android devices are sold than windows, iOS and OS X combined, I would say it is a mere observation of fact that the past few years every year has been the year of linux. Linux on the desktop on the other hand...
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#115> While Windows and Mac users have to run graphical installers — you know, where you hit Next a few times and try to avoid installing bundled crapware — Linux users can just open up a command line and type sudo apt-get install vlc. Right. As if VLC on windows comes with crapware. As if apt-get [0] never asked cryptic messages [1]. [0] or yaourt or any other package manager [1] and it's more about the package than the…
At least it did, in a way
http://www.howtogeek.com/194993/the-windows-store-is-a-cessp...
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given that more android devices are sold than windows, iOS and OS X combined, I would say it is a mere observation of fact that the past few years every year has been the year of linux. Linux on the desktop on the other hand...
Android actually _is_ a Linux desktop system. It is a GUI on top of a Java based virtual machine on top of a Linux kernel. This Linux desktop has actually overthrown both Windows and iOS. The market share was 85% in Q2 2014 according to: http://thenextweb.com/google/2014/07/31/android-reached-reco... Android just uses another type of input than classical keyboards and mice. But you can also use keyboards and mice her…
Android is a mobile phone OS and as suchhas a marginal market share on desktop. Windows still has over 90% market share on desktop (http://www.netmarketshare.com/)
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
The release notes here ( https://github.com/OneGet/oneget/blob/master/release-notes.m... ) show a few mentions of defining and getting dependencies. I'm going to guess the answer is 'yes'.
Dependency management is more than 'defining and getting dependencies'. What if package X relies on version 1 of package A, and and package Y relies on version 2 of package A. Will they work together, each in an isolated sandbox, or will you have dependency conflicts? Package management is a really difficult problem to solve, which linux package managers have barely been able to solve. In addition to this, each progr…
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
I take it you haven't used PowerShell much ...
I have tried PowerShell a few times but I can't never appreciate it. Yes, it technical superior than it's counterparts on Linux by piping objects instead of mangling text, but the syntax of PowerShell is just too convoluted. I have concluded that when doing command line you want to write commands and not program code to execute. That's why bash is usually straight on and powerful for the 95% commands you do. It's edg…
instpkg32.exe /DefaultSettings:ALL_DEFAULTS
is something that doesn't really exist anymore for management tools on Windows, except those that have been around for a long time. Even the GUIs on Windows Server nowadays just drive a PowerShell runspace behind the scenes and you can script just as easily as click around.Install-Package is a PowerShell cmdlet and thus gets sane and consistent argument parsing and discovery for free. Something like instpkg32.exe simply won't exist for a new feature here.
As for your complaints, I can gladly answer them and other questions, but it's probably a bit OT here.
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given that more android devices are sold than windows, iOS and OS X combined, I would say it is a mere observation of fact that the past few years every year has been the year of linux. Linux on the desktop on the other hand...
All the wonderful thing I can not do with my Android phone. Like uninstall the Samsung apps. Or have root. Or install my distro on it.
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Android actually _is_ a Linux desktop system. It is a GUI on top of a Java based virtual machine on top of a Linux kernel. This Linux desktop has actually overthrown both Windows and iOS. The market share was 85% in Q2 2014 according to: http://thenextweb.com/google/2014/07/31/android-reached-reco... Android just uses another type of input than classical keyboards and mice. But you can also use keyboards and mice her…
That's bullocks, you're just changing definitions to suit your needs. Android is a mobile phone OS and as suchhas a marginal market share on desktop. Windows still has over 90% market share on desktop ( http://www.netmarketshare.com/ )
Same to you :-) Windows is also a mobile phone OS since Win 8.