Ridiculous. 128GB SSD is far more useful than a 500GB spinning disk. We stream media from cloud storage now.
New Entry Level 21.5-inch iMac
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple's only puts touchscreens on devices that run iOS. Touchscreens on computers running desktop OSes can be useful, but they're also pretty deeply compromised due to the "gorilla arm" effect and the fact that the UI is just not designed for it. That's fine for some people and companies but it's not how Apple does things.
Of course. In hindsight it's obvious - Apple does something right or not-at-all, and Touchscreens on a normal desktop interface isn't "right". Hence the MS invention of Metro interface and the new shallow-slanting all-in-one devices to avoid gorilla-arm.
Indeed. Depending on your opinion of Apple, they either insist on getting it right, or they wait for other companies to work out the bugs for them. Either way, no iMac touchscreens.
Re: New Entry Level 21.5-inch iMac
#113It's 1080p, I think I'll pass this year. No reason to get this when I have a late 2013 rMBP still kicking strong.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my experience of looking for an all-in-one: if you want apple-quality but from any other manufacturer, be prepared to actually spend more money than you would on an iMac. Obviously with an iMac you are not getting a touchscreen that is standard on every other AiO,but I can't say I would use such feature.
Could you elaborate a little on why you're looking for an AiO computer? I've always seen them as overpriced, underpowered computers for people who don't really want a computer. I don't know why anyone on HN would be in the market for one.
They're very space-efficient and don't create a mess of cords. "Underpowered" is relative to need, and a lot of people don't need all the power in a modern computer.
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I guess it's all in perception - I do a lot of Java work on a 2012 MBP 2.3 quad core with 16g and an SSD - still feels slow to me quite often. Have not even considered a MBA because of this.
I have a similar spec 2012 MBP. Are you using Trim Enabler? Otherwise, you may have lost a lot of SSD performance. Also, do you monitor RAM usage? Browsers can eat up your RAM. OS X needs RAM for disk caching for snappy performance.
I did on an older drive, but upgraded the drive in December, and lo and behold, it's not on. Rebooting now to see how this affects things. Thanks.
Re: New Entry Level 21.5-inch iMac
#116This is really closing the already-small-gap between Apple and their competitors in the All-in-one space. I've been shopping for an All-in-one and it's thoroughly unimpressive - to get something with Apple-level quality, you really have to pay an Apple-level price... and at that point, you start wondering why shop with a brand with a worse reputation than Apple? I mean, I like Asus hardware, but I wouldn't want to pa…
1.4ghz core speed and no SSD? For me, and most people, this isn't closing any gap.
Edit: Core speed is actually 0.3ghz lower than I thought...
Re: New Entry Level 21.5-inch iMac
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my experience of looking for an all-in-one: if you want apple-quality but from any other manufacturer, be prepared to actually spend more money than you would on an iMac. Obviously with an iMac you are not getting a touchscreen that is standard on every other AiO,but I can't say I would use such feature.
Could you elaborate a little on why you're looking for an AiO computer? I've always seen them as overpriced, underpowered computers for people who don't really want a computer. I don't know why anyone on HN would be in the market for one.
I want a computer in my kitchen breakfast nook. This is a space where I entertain guests - a rat's nest of cables and a large desk are completely inappropriate for that venue. This is a location where I'm willing to pay a premium for aesthetics.
My man-cave basement machine is a proper desktop gaming rig.
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Simplicity? My grandma doesn't want to buy an "external display", she would truly have no idea where to even start to do that. And then after she's got the Mac mini, the external display, and the cable to connect the display (assuming she was able to find the right one,) someone then has to set it up for her. Compare that to an iMac. Go to the Apple store, drop $1k, take it home, plug in the power cable, and she's on…
> My grandma doesn't want I strongly dislike when people use the "my grandma" argument. So what you're saying is either you're also as technically challenged or you're just an ass for not helping her and letting her go with the less optimal purchase because it's easier to set up. Dropping $1k to browse Facebook does not make sense, and it never will, I'm sorry. Disclaimer: I own a late 2013 rMBP.
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Re: New Entry Level 21.5-inch iMac
#119This has a 1920x1080 display. I fail to understand why someone would buy this over a Mac Mini and an external display: cheaper, more powerful, ability to change displays, only two more cables (power and data for the display). Anyone care to enlighten me?
You forgot to account for speakers - more cables there. In general, the advantage to an all-in-one device is aesthetics. If you want something in your living room? All-in-one is the way to go. If you go with a wireless keyboard and mouse, you're tethered by a single solitary power cable. It's once place where I'm generally disappointed in Apple's competitors (I loathe Apple but I freely admit they win because they're…
> You forgot to account for speakers - more cables there.
I'd love it if my current monitor came with the iMac's speakers. I don't know if it was the speakers or the enclosure necessarily, but the iMac at my last office job sounded great.
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#120Oh boy, $1,099 for an iMac? Here in my country this piece of tech costs nothing less than R$ 5.799 ($2576.99!!!!!)