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Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by ishansharma »

cosmie wrote: post #63
protomyth wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm hoping someone does a cloud service for note syncing using a code control back-end. I would really love to be able to look at the changes and rollback a change or delete.

Microsoft already has. OneNote supports page versioning, edit history, and deleted pages go into a 'Recycling Bin' for 30 days before being deleted permanently. If you sign into OneNote with a Microsoft account, you get auto-syncing to SkyDrive. They also have pretty snazzy Android and iOS apps for OneNote, although IIRC the mobile apps require an Office 365 subscription. Out of everything that comes out of Redmond,…

Though OneNote lacks the integration of Evernote. Evernote is integrated with many services and apps (IFTTT, Drafts, many other writing apps) which OneNote lacks.

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by atmosx »

jkincaid wrote: post #69
temuze wrote: post #47

While this post must be pretty distressing for the Evernote team, their response time is pretty impressive! Within a couple hours of this post being published, Phil Libin has already contacted him. See the edit at the end of the post: "Update: Evernote CEO Phil Libin contacted me and we spoke about the issues described. He apologized, saying the post rings true and that there is a lot of work to be done both on the a…

Hi, OP here. It was very gracious of him, but I should note that I've met Phil several times over the years (including while I was formerly a TechCrunch reporter), which I suspect had something to do with the speed.

OP stands for Original Poster? (I know it's the Post's author, just trying to catch the acronym because I see this often on HN).

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by colinbartlett »

atmosx wrote: post #112
jkincaid wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, OP here. It was very gracious of him, but I should note that I've met Phil several times over the years (including while I was formerly a TechCrunch reporter), which I suspect had something to do with the speed.

OP stands for Original Poster? (I know it's the Post's author, just trying to catch the acronym because I see this often on HN).

Correct.

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by 7952 »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #74
GraffitiTim wrote: post #55

I've been an avid Evernote user since the beginning (one of the first few thousand users). I use it to record all sorts of ideas, thoughts, notes, reminders, research, and references. One year ago, my girlfriend was using Evernote (on my suggestion) to write her travel journal on our trip to Southeast Asia. I saw her note sync a bunch of times (the iOS app shows a little blue arrow when it's uploading). But one day s…

This happened to me early in Evernote's rise with a very important note. I don't know, shame on me for trusting software I guess? I kept using Evernote for awhile, but gradually I fully transitioned to OneNote which fit my graduate school needs a bit more, and ultimately became more pivotal to my life. I'm now one of the biggest OneNote advocates, a rarity for me with most software I like.

OneNote is fabulous. The way you can do multi-user stuff with just a shared folder is so much better than the cloud.

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by rscale »

tempestn wrote: post #67

I really hope Evernote's take-away from this is that they need to scale back development on all their auxiliary stuff - hello, food, whatever, as well as all but the most critical feature requests, and focus as much as possible on making the core experience bulletproof. I would _hate_ to have to give up Evernote, but like others here, am extremely apprehensive about the possibility of losing data. One stop-gap they m…

I'm an Evernote Premium user, but I convinced my wife not to start using it because of this apparent misallocation of resources. I've had data loss within the (slow) core app, and the editor frustrates me; thus I find it kind of frustrating that as near as I can tell, most of the development effort is focused on very marginally useful features.

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by amboar »

jbrooksuk wrote: post #106
jimwalsh wrote: post #101

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I agree with all your points. It's why I've used Evernote less and less over time. As for point 6, if you are on Mac/iOS, Clear App is a great way to handle the list issue when you are actually in the store. http://realmacsoftware.com/clear

I use Clear for my shopping all of the time. Since they've allowed us to use more characters I've even started noting the aisle numbers so I can look them up without trying to peer over everyone and walking up and down for ages. I hate shopping, but this has certainly relieved some of the pain for me.

This may sound a little batty and is perhaps off-topic, but some time ago I bothered to do an unofficial upgrade of my galaxy s purely so I could install the Woolworths (Aus supermarket chain) Android app. It has the ability to create and store multiple shopping lists, and to sort lists by aisle for the store of your choice. Best feature for ninja strikes; get in and get out with maximum efficiency. I hate shopping.

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by josephlord »

tetha wrote: post #89
protomyth wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm hoping someone does a cloud service for note syncing using a code control back-end. I would really love to be able to look at the changes and rollback a change or delete.

Just wondering. A simple git frontend could do that pretty well - just strip it down to message-free one file commits. That enables you to display the history of a file by handling the output of without confusing the user too much (it's linear, just like his changes), you get full reverts, syncing (push if you have internet), multi-device-support (clone). You'd even be independent from the actual repository host with…

There was a post yesterday about using private gists as to-do lists.

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by raverbashing »

farnsworth wrote: post #3

I remember the day a year and a half ago when I went out apartment hunting in a new town, looking at my notes on apartments in Evernote's Android app. It was a complex note, with lots of text in deep hierarchies of bullet points. At one point I tried to edit it, and after a few visual glitches, the text of the note disappeared. Then it synced, and there was no undo or history option in the app as far as I could tell.…

Someone should realise that "syncing a doc to nothing" is 99.9% of times, the result of a bug

Nobody does that, they delete the doc, they don't erase the contents of it

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by asgeirn »

bdwalter wrote: post #84

I have been a loyal Evernote premium payer since 2009, and using it even longer. For a long time I recommended it to friends but since have stopped. I have developed some concerns with it over the years. 1. Fear of data loss... it's probably the largest part of my mistrust of all these dang cloud services that want to control/own me or otherwise lock me into their service. I run a 99.999% uptime, extreme scale, SaaS…

Thanks for condensing this. It's amazing how much it rings in sync with my worries regarding Evernote.

That means both that either both of us are weirdos, or a substantial part of Evernote's user base are in line with these concerns.

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