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Re: Why I am building a product with a tiny market

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If you learn nothing else from Wikipedia, learn this: Begging annoys users and isn't particularly successful. As far as I know, Wikipedia fundraising efforts have been very successful. They got $25 million dollars just last year. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikimedia...

Yes, and as the fifth most popular site in the world, that is a pittance. They could be making billions with unobtrusive advertising. Given their traffic, the fact that they only raised $25 million last year means that nearly all of their users ignored their pleas for help. Further, when they do their begging, it is very obtrusive and disruptive to the user experience. Where alternative revenue models are available,…

Average cost per user per month in 2012-2013 is roughly $0.007[1]. They also achieved a quite high CTR and donation rate with their banners[2]. Do they really need to trade independency and users trust for (hypothetical) billion-worth ads? One should also keep in mind that non-for-profits must spend all their money in the year.

[1] Jimmy Walles on Quora: http://qr.ae/TL1ku [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Banner_testi...

Re: Why I am building a product with a tiny market

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They could set up a separate non-profit organisation (that donates its proceeds to the wikimedia foundation) to sell and manage the ads. Place the organisation in a city far from any wikimedia presence to counter casual contact. Put in the charter than there can be zero personnel overlap between the businesses at any level and that nobody at the ads company is allowed to edit any article on wikipedia or any reason, m…

... if they can get by with donations, that seems a tad simpler. Also, I don't have to watch any ads! Hurray for Wikipedia!

You seem to have missed the bit where they ran massive, obnoxious ads for months begging users to donate. And all for a pittance in donation revenue.

Re: Why I am building a product with a tiny market

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Admittedly I haven't spent too much time testing your product, but I just wanted to point out a few free tools that have been around for a while (which I use often):

http://www.gethifi.com/tools/regex (js regex tester) http://rubular.com/ (ruby regex tester)

Have you heard of/tried these before?

Re: Why I am building a product with a tiny market

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Regarding business model and monetizing, here are some ideas: 1. You could sell tutorials and ebooks on regexes. People who use your tool might want to understand why their regexes are not working. 2. You could license your debugging code/technology. 3. You could sell a corporate license to use your site. Corps’s regexes won't be shared publicly. Others might be. Corps paranoid about people stealing their regexes mig…

This kind of valuable feedback is why I like HN so much. It's kind of you to take the time to organize and share your thoughts, asimjalis.

Thanks for saying that.

Re: Why I am building a product with a tiny market

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Admittedly I haven't spent too much time testing your product, but I just wanted to point out a few free tools that have been around for a while (which I use often): http://www.gethifi.com/tools/regex (js regex tester) http://rubular.com/ (ruby regex tester) Have you heard of/tried these before?

That was exactly my first thought - I use rubular all the time and it's a great scratchpad for regexes.

Re: Why I am building a product with a tiny market

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I don't think I am in your target market based on your current positioning, however I am in a position where I would be involved in the decision as to whether my company would pay money for something like this. The company I work for (as an SOA architect) uses regex heavily for many mission critical applications. It costs me 100s of Ks in testing effort when a back-end format experiences major change. We usually don'…

I'd love to learn more about your use case and what's important in such large scale operations. Can you please email me at debuggex@toarca.com?

Re: Why I am building a product with a tiny market

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Regarding business model and monetizing, here are some ideas: 1. You could sell tutorials and ebooks on regexes. People who use your tool might want to understand why their regexes are not working. 2. You could license your debugging code/technology. 3. You could sell a corporate license to use your site. Corps’s regexes won't be shared publicly. Others might be. Corps paranoid about people stealing their regexes mig…

Some very useful suggestions. Thank you.

In your HN profile can you add your website/startup and twitter handle?

Re: Why I am building a product with a tiny market

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Will you be charging for this?

Yes, I am planning to monetize. I have a few ideas for to do that as it approaches the end of beta, but I'd love to hear any suggestions you have.

What is the value-add over free tools such as rubular?
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