Seems that Sacks didn’t get that the message was targeted to the president to ask for a bilateral agreement with China, that’s the end game
David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models
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#112I'll go a step further, they aren't just pretending, they are blackmailing the country. The sane response would be "we don't negotiate with terrorists, and you will face criminal and financial penalties for damages caused."
Couldn't agree more. Better yet: the AI labs get straight up nationalized.
I don’t trust Altman at all, but still he’s 100000000x better than trump administration.
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#113Seems that Sacks didn’t get that the message was targeted to the president to ask for a bilateral agreement with China, that’s the end game
I believe the Chinese government fully supports for the American AI labs to pace the frontier, no need to enter an agreement with them on that respect.
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#114The first time I have agreed with David Sacks
He is a smart guy, and his podcast is good, if you can switch your brain off whenever they talk Trump and politics I mean.
His posture about all this nonsense has been clear for months already
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#115I'll go a step further, they aren't just pretending, they are blackmailing the country. The sane response would be "we don't negotiate with terrorists, and you will face criminal and financial penalties for damages caused."
> and you will face criminal and financial penalties for damages caused. I don't understand why this isn't talked about more. We don't need a slowdown. Just double down on prosecuting crimes. Let the companies take the risk. If they feel confident and they're right they win market share. If they don't feel confident, they can not risk it and slow down. If they feel confident and they get it wrong, they should be sued…
> just double down on prosecuting crimes.
That quote comes from someone that has never tried to get law enforcement to pursue a case. Local or state police are completely unequipped to respond. And FBI is unlikely to get involved unless damage is high six figures. We had an incident where we had a ton of evidence pointing to a past employee. It would have been an incredibly easy case for the FBI. They didn't have the resources to handle it. And this was a case that was gift-wrapped with a bow for them. Imagine a case where we didn't have evidence, or an idea of who it was ....
Re: David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it’s more than money and slowing progress. Public perception on AI is in the gutter. That is a much bigger threat to these companies. They’re trying to turn it around.
Public perception is another big one. But I think with the way AI is slated to grow exponentially it's going to hit electricity limits very soon. Big tech can build a huge data center in 5 years but scaling up the electrical infrastructure is mired in red tape and can take on the order of decades.
Someone will likely come up with some clever way to make AI use less electricity.
There's probably something in how you design the models or chips or some other thing that will be figured out over the next 5 - 10 years to make these use dramatically less electricity.
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#117They’ll slow down not because they “are worried” but because their improvements are stagnating as they hit financial and technical challenges.
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#118You know what rubs me is that in Darios blog post he talks about "abundance", but what he really means is that Anthropic will bath in endless pools of hard curreny while the rest of the world will try to stay just barely afloat/alive.
It's an obnoxious form of discourse when someone says X and the response is "obviously you're lying and you really mean Y, which is terrible". By all accounts Dario sincerely believes that AI has the potential to substantially improve the lives of everyone; that's my view as well. And it might be wrong! In which case you should offer evidence against it, rather than making empty claims that your opponent is a lying liar.
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#119They seem to be okay with an American slowdown, even though the Chinese won’t slow down. So maybe they want something the Chinese already have: liability protection. The models spontaneously hack everything important without shame. The frontier labs are going to get enjoined and regulated twelve ways to Sunday if the Feds don’t socialize the costs.
It's already against the law to hack...
Re: David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
How can you not believe it? Neither of them are even close to making a profit and the market is saturated with cheaper alternatives. This is a ploy for regulatory capture.
You're wrong about profits.
Anthropic's profit estimate they released a while ago was a masterclass in deceptive reporting. They didn't include training costs, stock based compensation, or liabilities. Token gross margin is not profit.