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David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models

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Re: David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models

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Post by kypro »

elicash wrote: post #5

David Sachs wants to use government to punish people he disagrees with politically, like Dario. He supported the Department of War's illegal actions against Anthropic. He supported the Trump administration's temporary export controls against Anthropic, the first government-imposed pause. He has said Anthropic has created a monopoly, implying that they should be broken up. I don't take him seriously when he says he do…

You're being downvoted because you clearly have the wrong opinion. If you want upvotes here, please share a conspiracy theory about why the CEOs of AI companies might want to slow down.

It doesn't need to based in reality or even reasonable.

Re: David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models

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Post by Zenul_Abidin »

tjwebbnorfolk wrote: post #7
elicash wrote: post #5

David Sachs wants to use government to punish people he disagrees with politically, like Dario. He supported the Department of War's illegal actions against Anthropic. He supported the Trump administration's temporary export controls against Anthropic, the first government-imposed pause. He has said Anthropic has created a monopoly, implying that they should be broken up. I don't take him seriously when he says he do…

poor Anthropic

Will someone please think about Dario?

Re: David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models

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Post by Zenul_Abidin »

kypro wrote: post #8
Insanity wrote: post #3

They’ll slow down not because they “are worried” but because their improvements are stagnating as they hit financial and technical challenges.

> because their improvements are stagnating as they hit financial and technical challenges. I don't mean to be rude, but how is it even possible for someone to hold this opinion in mid-2026? Can you explain why you believe this?

Basically, continuously building out compute is costing these labs enormous amounts of money, which VCs and other companies have been bankrolling in order for them to develop powerful models.

So if the new models they can develop right now are less frontier, it could be a net loss on their balance sheets.

Re: David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models

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Post by asdfman123 »

Insanity wrote: post #3

They’ll slow down not because they “are worried” but because their improvements are stagnating as they hit financial and technical challenges.

Actually, one of the major challenges they'll face is getting enough electricity. That could stop AI growth in its tracks.

Re: David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models

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Post by throwaway63467 »

I guess what they really want is to limit sale of AI models to compliant vendors and then raise the bar to compliance just high enough so they can pass it but smaller labs can’t. There’s no moat, it’s an efficient market that drives margins to zero right now, of course they don’t want that, collusion of the big vendors is the next logical step.

Re: David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models

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Post by tuvix »

kypro wrote: post #8
Insanity wrote: post #3

They’ll slow down not because they “are worried” but because their improvements are stagnating as they hit financial and technical challenges.

> because their improvements are stagnating as they hit financial and technical challenges. I don't mean to be rude, but how is it even possible for someone to hold this opinion in mid-2026? Can you explain why you believe this?

Why would someone hold the opposite opinion?

It’s much more likely that our current approach to large language models for general use will eventually show diminishing improvements (even if you think it hasn’t yet), than the opposite situation where valuable improvements can be made forever.

The threat of distillation and efficiency gains from competitors mean that providing value at the top end of the market is an existential necessity for these labs. I don’t think they can do that forever and, in my opinion, for the vast majority of use cases we’ve already reached very little improvement for new models when compared with available offerings.

Re: David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models

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Post by vatsachak »

esafak wrote: post #16
nba456_ wrote: post #10

He's right that if all the frontier labs are in agreement that they should slow down, they don't need the government to do that.

And kids don't need parents to eat their vegetables and do their homework.

They actually don't
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