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Hold the manufacturer equally liable. Easy.
The shenanigans AI companies have been up to recently (including boasting about criminal behaviour hacking other companies) without repercussions is pretty good proof that it isn't "easy".
Anthropic has paid out an awful lot of money settling piracy suits.
An example where no one attemped to hold anyone liable isn't a counterexample to what happens when we do.
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Hold the manufacturer equally liable. Easy.
"here at waymo we hire a list of fall guys who will go to jail if one of our cars hits someone. its a great job, just like being oncall"
I can't find evidence of it working in the US. Gets hard to pay fall guys when all company assets have been seized in court judgements.
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When autonomy is solved, they could put a bed or office or dining table in the car. But I agree, this halfway autonomy where you have to watch everything is kind of useless.
> When autonomy is solved, they could put a bed or office or dining table in the car. Have you ever tried reading a book while being driven around? You get car sick really fast, because your vestibular system does not like constantly getting jostled around with mismatching visual inputs. Eating dinner while being driven around is a similar story: anyone around you does something unexpected, and your dinner ends up be…
I think this article is underestimating Tesla and very much underestimating how hard Level 4 autonomy is. The long-tail of edge conditions to handle is really long, and Rivian is only at the beginning. What Rivian is going to release at the end of 2026 is what Tesla had 3 years ago. All that time has gone to dealing with edge conditions: bike lanes, emergency vehicles, construction zones, and all the crazy one-off si…
Can you elaborate why robotaxi success will hinge on manufacturing?
That depends on manufacturing (e.g., low unit costs, and high throughput).
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For any doubters: using a 2025 model is a key detail here. It's the latest hardware version of the self driving computer. The older cars on the road are stuck with significantly worse FSD software because the hardware is far too weak.
I have a 2020 M3 on HW3 with v14 lite and it's very good. But even v12 was pretty good. I drove an HW4 as a loaner and did not notice a significant difference. I think the big difference would be on the long-tail of edge conditions, but I'm not sure.
I think this article is underestimating Tesla and very much underestimating how hard Level 4 autonomy is. The long-tail of edge conditions to handle is really long, and Rivian is only at the beginning. What Rivian is going to release at the end of 2026 is what Tesla had 3 years ago. All that time has gone to dealing with edge conditions: bike lanes, emergency vehicles, construction zones, and all the crazy one-off si…
I control+f'd LiDAR and got hits confirming they're using it, which means it's already better than anything Tesla is capable of offering
They also spend $1 billion a year on R&D. while they are probably at least break even on opex, they are continuing to invest.
There is no shortcut. The reason they have all of those sensors, and the tiny windshield wipers that keep them clean, is that they need them to make it work. They are on version 6 of their hardware. If it were possible to remove some of the sensors and retain the same level of safety, they would.
I think this article is underestimating Tesla and very much underestimating how hard Level 4 autonomy is. The long-tail of edge conditions to handle is really long, and Rivian is only at the beginning. What Rivian is going to release at the end of 2026 is what Tesla had 3 years ago. All that time has gone to dealing with edge conditions: bike lanes, emergency vehicles, construction zones, and all the crazy one-off si…
Waymo is first to market by retrofitting a bunch of Jaguars nobody else would buy. They can keep that arbitrage up for a while.
I think this article is underestimating Tesla and very much underestimating how hard Level 4 autonomy is. The long-tail of edge conditions to handle is really long, and Rivian is only at the beginning. What Rivian is going to release at the end of 2026 is what Tesla had 3 years ago. All that time has gone to dealing with edge conditions: bike lanes, emergency vehicles, construction zones, and all the crazy one-off si…
> Waymo FSD is obviously more advanced than Tesla, but they will lose out to both Tesla and Rivian when it comes to manufacturing Maybe I misunderstand what you mean but the car itself (chassis, bodywork, drivetrain) is a commodity today. If you can turn any car into an autonomous car then the car isn't worth that much in the self-driving game. Tesla's stock is propped by the promise of becoming the first to achieve…
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I don't really want to be just sitting in my car tapping my knees while the car drives for me. I'd rather these guys just focus on building a Euro spec model of the R3 and getting it over here.
And since I can't look at my phone (or sleep or read) I just sit there and think. It's surprisingly relaxing and I didn't realize how much I would appreciate it.
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I have a 2020 M3 on HW3 with v14 lite and it's very good. But even v12 was pretty good. I drove an HW4 as a loaner and did not notice a significant difference. I think the big difference would be on the long-tail of edge conditions, but I'm not sure.
There's a wide range of what people find acceptable. I think v12 was the last I tried on HW3 and it was bad. Inching into oncoming traffic trying to do left turns, extremely sudden and sharp lane changes, lots of interventions required. v14 on HW4 was the first I've seen it actually drive competently. I even got to try it in a couple snow storms and it did great. I did not try v14 lite, it's great they got it working…
But still, even v12 can handle things like manual traffic signalers, construction zones, etc. The first time my car followed instructions of a cop waving us through a stop sign, I was amazed.