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How is the Bun rewrite in Rust going?

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Re: How is the Bun rewrite in Rust going?

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Post by germandiago »

podgorniy wrote: post #89

> I hadn’t seen the numbers for the CI/CD costs of Buildkite, and as you might have noticed from above, some PRs were written by Anthropic employees. The leaked code of the claude had switch flag where claude pretends to be employee. You can't trust/expect that those PR's were authored by people.

> some PRs were written by Anthropic employees

Oh, that company that I heard did not use humans aymore to write software and bragged about it? I heard, correct me if I am wrong.

Something does not match here...

Re: How is the Bun rewrite in Rust going?

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Post by ChoGGi »

benjiro29 wrote: post #41

I really do not understand how software developer think anymore. Using a LLM to translate a project in a short time, is by itself incredible. Just like one-shot whatever office clone. But what makes software is not the fast creation of a "product" but that actual development of its features. Figuring out how everything needs to work together, fixing the bugs, and the o so boring UI work. I have used LLMs to create st…

> I constantly see software being published on reddit that does X, Y, Z only for the authors to abandon it as fast as they vibe coded it.

Also if you whip something up, you tend not to care for it as much as something you took the time to create in a "proper" manner.

Re: How is the Bun rewrite in Rust going?

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Post by someguyiguess »

benjiro29 wrote: post #41

I really do not understand how software developer think anymore. Using a LLM to translate a project in a short time, is by itself incredible. Just like one-shot whatever office clone. But what makes software is not the fast creation of a "product" but that actual development of its features. Figuring out how everything needs to work together, fixing the bugs, and the o so boring UI work. I have used LLMs to create st…

It’s strange how you think AI is some static thing that only produces the type of output you experienced and isn’t constantly improving. My experience has proven the latter time and time again.

Re: How is the Bun rewrite in Rust going?

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Post by [deleted] »

whstl wrote: post #90
benjiro29 wrote: post #41

I really do not understand how software developer think anymore. Using a LLM to translate a project in a short time, is by itself incredible. Just like one-shot whatever office clone. But what makes software is not the fast creation of a "product" but that actual development of its features. Figuring out how everything needs to work together, fixing the bugs, and the o so boring UI work. I have used LLMs to create st…

I think this is perfectly fine. If you explore Github, you're gonna see thousands of abandoned game engines, compilers for made-up languages. And that has been happening since before the LLM era. I used to be part of an OS messaging board in the early 2000s and almost everyone had their own OS. A dozen people or so could even run Firefox! I remember (now legend) Terry bothering us to check out LoseThos or GodOS or wh…

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Re: How is the Bun rewrite in Rust going?

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Post by nope1000 »

benjiro29 wrote: post #41

I really do not understand how software developer think anymore. Using a LLM to translate a project in a short time, is by itself incredible. Just like one-shot whatever office clone. But what makes software is not the fast creation of a "product" but that actual development of its features. Figuring out how everything needs to work together, fixing the bugs, and the o so boring UI work. I have used LLMs to create st…

Also I think porting code to another language or rewriting is one of the easier tasks for an LLM, since it has an extremely detailed spec (the source code itself) and a ton of tests already (hopefully).

Re: How is the Bun rewrite in Rust going?

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Post by someguyiguess »

reddalo wrote: post #79
oblio wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you comparing 2 relatively simple games with... Word? Word is basically an operating system. Unix people like to make fun of Emacs for being one, but Word is basically one, too. And all the features in there are used, otherwise Microsoft wouldn't keep them around.

>Word is basically an operating system. And .doc files are basically a memory dump.

Dump is a great word for it

Re: How is the Bun rewrite in Rust going?

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Post by vessenes »

irishcoffee wrote: post #50
vessenes wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably lots of stuff wrapped in 'unsafe'. I'm not a rust guy or a rust fan, and the last time I wrote something with Rust was like 7 years ago, but to my memory, because of how Rust manages mutability there are many access patterns that are Rust-specific; idiomatic Rust is going to use this patterns but they would be unlikely to show up in a language with a different type system / borrow checker / etc. etc.

So "unidiomatic" rust means, 'don't use these parts of the language even though they're first-class citizens?' How odd. Lot of mental gymnastics going on there.

Meh. The (a major?) goal of Rust is this sort of type safety flowing down to memory bugs. Not every possible access pattern was known at the beginning, and generally they developed a philosophy of keeping the "unsafe" memory access patterns extremely bounded and heavily inspected. I think that's a fair and admirable goal.

Re: How is the Bun rewrite in Rust going?

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Post by germandiago »

sigbottle wrote: post #96
benjiro29 wrote: post #41

I really do not understand how software developer think anymore. Using a LLM to translate a project in a short time, is by itself incredible. Just like one-shot whatever office clone. But what makes software is not the fast creation of a "product" but that actual development of its features. Figuring out how everything needs to work together, fixing the bugs, and the o so boring UI work. I have used LLMs to create st…

The more technical you get, the more subsitutable you become - or at least, people think of it in that way, because the whole idea is "It's not me, or the people, it's the raw technical prowess that earns its keep in this place". But it seems like we're finally starting to accept that "accidentals" like network effects, ownership, accountability, etc. are important. Of course, that's why many of us fled to technical…

I think it is a very good point: "because the "accidentals" become tied up with things like nepotism, unfair and arbitrary"

I never thought of this from this perspective but indeed it seems to be totally true.

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