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Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Anyone have recommendations for cyberpunk enthusiasts who love William Gibson? I can’t believe they cancelled the tv show :(

What TV show are you talking about?

I'm assuming The Peripheral.

Great show, agree with the intense disappointment of it's cancellation.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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post #88

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Fans of Shirow will probably lynch me, but I didn't like the manga all that much. Not even the art style, which the new animé seems to replicate. To me, Mamoru Oshii's 1995 GitS is THE version, because I'm seldom in the mood for slapstick and I much prefer the introspective mood of the movie, and its cinematic visuals. And the music! I haven't liked any other adaptations since. To me, the movie is almost perfect. I d…

I liked Innocence for the overwhelm-of-ideas. I will say outright that 'i don't entirely get it' but I very much like that it exists and I rewatch it every couple of years to just sit under the waterfall of concepts, no matter how pretentious it all may be.

That's valid!

I just can't get over how pretentious it is, and also I miss Motoko in it. I mean, the first movie (1995) also toyed with pretentiousness, but this was miraculously curtailed before it had a chance to bog the whole movie down [1], and its awesome mood, soundtrack -- much like with Blade Runner, another favorite of mine, I find it hard to separate the movie from its awesome soundtrack -- and visuals overpowered everything else. Motoko questioning if she was human, and what it mean to be human, it all worked for me. Maybe if she had spent the whole movie doing this, without any payoff, I'd like it less.

Innocence has great visuals too, I'll grant you this!

[1] mostly because the movie ends :D

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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The most Cyberpunk thing imo is the bird's nests made using fibre optic cable from Ukraine. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/bird-nest...

It's not really any more cyberpunk than, say, a crow collecting expended ammo casings because they're shiny. Just involving electronics technology doesn't make something cyberpunk.

Disagree, corvids collecting bullet casings because they are shiny is heavily Shadowrun/WoD/Hellboy coded aesthetically. Regular birds gathering fiber optic cables for nests is EXTREMELY CYBERPUNK are you kidding? The image evokes so much: capitalist excess, tech waste involving computers/internet/cybernetics, war bad, environmental degredation etc... the only part about this concept that isnt heavily cyberpunk is that the bird isn't sick, dying, or dead and is somehow happy to find such a workable and durable nest building material.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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So much of this space has been collapsed into homogenized entertainment. Nowadays, by the time a child is ten years old they have seen every form of the hero’s journey in the cartoons they watch, to the degree where there are tropes and nods to source material or even sometimes derivatives of source. Sci fi, fantasy and other genres are blended in as hooks because cartoons have to keep viewership and eye balls, so th…

Cyberpunk specifically has also been outdated fast by real world developments, and other genres emerging with similar topics, but different design(?)-language. The whole cyberspace-element for example kinda died (or evolved) with the rise of the real internet, the Matrix-Movies and recently with stuff like VRMMO-stories from asia. The overall concepts and elements are still around in some way, but the specific combin…

I always find it kind of funny that after Cyberpunk was coined "X-punk" (steam-punk, diseal-punk, etc) became a construction to denote a particular type of "retro-future", sci-fi as imagined from a past time period.

This wasn't initially true of the word cyberpunk, but over the intervening years its become true, as cyberpunk has more and more denoted the future specifically as seen from the perspective of the 1980s and early 90's. Its become "retro-actively retro".

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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So much of this space has been collapsed into homogenized entertainment. Nowadays, by the time a child is ten years old they have seen every form of the hero’s journey in the cartoons they watch, to the degree where there are tropes and nods to source material or even sometimes derivatives of source. Sci fi, fantasy and other genres are blended in as hooks because cartoons have to keep viewership and eye balls, so th…

Yeah, back in my day there were Elves, not Vulcans. There were Orcs , not Klingons.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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post #32

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Thanks <3
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