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Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

#101

Post by jijijijij »

toofy wrote: post #43
tangenter wrote: post #37

So much of this space has been collapsed into homogenized entertainment. Nowadays, by the time a child is ten years old they have seen every form of the hero’s journey in the cartoons they watch, to the degree where there are tropes and nods to source material or even sometimes derivatives of source. Sci fi, fantasy and other genres are blended in as hooks because cartoons have to keep viewership and eye balls, so th…

it’s been this way forever. the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00, etc… all had generic trash movies and music too. stop getting recs from algorithms and the entire world will open back up to you. just like top40 music and generic movies from back in the day, you’re getting the lowest common denominator recs. i read a book about the music industry in the 80s (it’s been a couple years and i can’t remember the name now) but…

Yes, and it's always been hot in summer!

> go to your local record store, look at their wall of employee recs, or gasp talk to them and ask them.

What local record store?

What local cinema?

What local bookshop?

Congrats, if you're resistant to addictive algorithms and same-day delivery convenience, but it's ignorant to deny the new baseline.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

#102

Post by ajmurmann »

pennomi wrote: post #82
PurpleRamen wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cyberpunk specifically has also been outdated fast by real world developments, and other genres emerging with similar topics, but different design(?)-language. The whole cyberspace-element for example kinda died (or evolved) with the rise of the real internet, the Matrix-Movies and recently with stuff like VRMMO-stories from asia. The overall concepts and elements are still around in some way, but the specific combin…

It feels like the last remaining promise of cyberpunk is widespread cybernetic augmentation. The rest of the genre is not really fiction anymore.

NIMBYs have managed to "safe" us from the architecture.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

#104

Post by chasd00 »

stuxnet79 wrote: post #5
evanjrowley wrote: post #2

Coincidentally, there is a new Ghost in the Shell anime that's premiering now on Amazon Prime Video. It's animation style and mood are closely aligned with the original 1989 manga, which is to say it's more cartoonish and light-hearted. I prefer the more adult oriented content the franchise was putting out up until about 2006, but the new anime series gives me hope that we might eventually see a follow-up animation o…

Personally I think I'm done with GitS at this point. How many times has it been rebooted, like a dozen times? The last one I enjoyed watching was Arise but I lost track after that. I think the series has been done to death and I would love to see some completely new IP from Masamune that is more reflective of the AI and economic upheavals we are experiencing in the 20s.

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Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

#105

Post by everyone »

fooqux wrote: post #86
pennomi wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels like the last remaining promise of cyberpunk is widespread cybernetic augmentation. The rest of the genre is not really fiction anymore.

I got a flier in the mail last week, offering a subscription service for ambulance rides. It was the most cyberpunk thing I'd seen personally.

The most Cyberpunk thing imo is the bird's nests made using fibre optic cable from Ukraine. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/bird-nest...

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

#106

Post by toyg »

tetris11 wrote: post #92
PurpleRamen wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cyberpunk specifically has also been outdated fast by real world developments, and other genres emerging with similar topics, but different design(?)-language. The whole cyberspace-element for example kinda died (or evolved) with the rise of the real internet, the Matrix-Movies and recently with stuff like VRMMO-stories from asia. The overall concepts and elements are still around in some way, but the specific combin…

I'd go the other way and say Cyberpunk was meant to be capitalism taken to its logical extreme (unregulated industries rife with corruption, with markets/regimes perturbed only through acts of violence and espionage). As life begins to imitate art, we're met with a The Thick Of It type situation where the satire of reality is no longer applicable and would be further diminished by continuing it > "Time and again, The…

Yeah, the issues of political critique that were key to early cyberpunk have largely been lost. It's partially the fault of the first Blade Runner movie, which exploded the genre while also sanitizing it of the harshest elements.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

#107

Post by toyg »

jijijijij wrote: post #101
toofy wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it’s been this way forever. the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00, etc… all had generic trash movies and music too. stop getting recs from algorithms and the entire world will open back up to you. just like top40 music and generic movies from back in the day, you’re getting the lowest common denominator recs. i read a book about the music industry in the 80s (it’s been a couple years and i can’t remember the name now) but…

Yes, and it's always been hot in summer! > go to your local record store, look at their wall of employee recs, or gasp talk to them and ask them. What local record store? What local cinema? What local bookshop? Congrats, if you're resistant to addictive algorithms and same-day delivery convenience, but it's ignorant to deny the new baseline.

I understand your point, but it's slightly exaggerated. At least in Europe, any decently-sized city will have at least one of any of those. Not as many as there used to be, sure, but at least one.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

#108

Post by fluoridation »

everyone wrote: post #105
fooqux wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got a flier in the mail last week, offering a subscription service for ambulance rides. It was the most cyberpunk thing I'd seen personally.

The most Cyberpunk thing imo is the bird's nests made using fibre optic cable from Ukraine. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/bird-nest...

It's not really any more cyberpunk than, say, a crow collecting expended ammo casings because they're shiny. Just involving electronics technology doesn't make something cyberpunk.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

#110

Post by BLKNSLVR »

the_af wrote: post #88
evanjrowley wrote: post #2

Coincidentally, there is a new Ghost in the Shell anime that's premiering now on Amazon Prime Video. It's animation style and mood are closely aligned with the original 1989 manga, which is to say it's more cartoonish and light-hearted. I prefer the more adult oriented content the franchise was putting out up until about 2006, but the new anime series gives me hope that we might eventually see a follow-up animation o…

Fans of Shirow will probably lynch me, but I didn't like the manga all that much. Not even the art style, which the new animé seems to replicate. To me, Mamoru Oshii's 1995 GitS is THE version, because I'm seldom in the mood for slapstick and I much prefer the introspective mood of the movie, and its cinematic visuals. And the music! I haven't liked any other adaptations since. To me, the movie is almost perfect. I d…

I liked Innocence for the overwhelm-of-ideas. I will say outright that 'i don't entirely get it' but I very much like that it exists and I rewatch it every couple of years to just sit under the waterfall of concepts, no matter how pretentious it all may be.
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