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Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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Post by BrandiATMuhkuh »

adev_ wrote: post #100
BrandiATMuhkuh wrote: post #86

That is so awesome. I wish I had that 11 years ago during my Microsoft Research Internship. I had a NAO robot (from another great French company) and it walked to employees to motivate them to do some movements. To prevent long term injuries from being in the same position for too long. It had a visual compass but it didn't work. And just telling to "walk straight" clearly didn't work :D Here is the video in case som…

> I had a NAO robot (from another great French company) and it walked to employees to motivate them to do some movements. One Toyota research center where I worked had robots that would go around the office and propose Snack to people. While probably not being the most efficient way of using a robot, it definitively brought a smile on the face of many employees.

haha how cool.

Not sure if I’m out of touch (not doing robotics right now) or if things just slowed down. Back in ~2013 it looked like humanoid robots were just around the corner. Boston Dynamics became a hit. Aldebaran’s Pepper was presented. And the DARPA Robotics Challenge was on everyone’s lips.

And then suddenly, nothing.

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

mhitza wrote: post #9

For a claim such as state of the art, or claims such as "great at any task" needs something of more substance. I've seen maze-solving robot competitions which can zoom around in seconds. The sped up video in the first part, and the "obstacle avoidance" are too slow for me to believe this is state of the art. While impressive at 8B, what would the expectation be in real life, that it's run remotely or autonomously wit…

The claim is very specifically that it's SOTA on the R2R-CE benchmark, which is a bunch of 3D environments in a simulation. So, yes, it's SOTA; no, it's not very different than a maze. And it's sure not anywhere near anything that could be considered SOTA in the real world... if such a SOTA was even possible to define objectively.

(it's not because evaluation in the real world is very, very tricky).

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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Post by idiotsecant »

dang wrote: post #91
idiotsecant wrote: post #72

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Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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Post by HanClinto »

felix_myuk wrote: post #92
HanClinto wrote: post #62

What is the realistic path to getting to play with this? I would love to hook this up to OpenClaw for hobbyist exploration. My dream has been to embody OpenClaw into a farm robot (been looking at adapting one of those RC lawnmowers that is tracked and built for mowing steep hills) so that I can assign it various tasks around our acreage -- "Explore the fenceline take pictures of the plants. Find all of the poison ivy…

Create a robot akin to OpenClaw with this would be cool, but it seems like for now the model is just for walking/understanding environment from text. What can you use to make the robot interact with the world?

Well once I've got an outdoor-capable robot that can drive around the acreage and generally find its way around, the first step would just be inventorying the property and doing things like surveys of plant or animal species (birdsong recognition, etc).

But for interaction with the world? I'd probably take something like an old 12-volt windshield-washer sprayer out of one of the wrecked cars in my front yard and put Round-Up into the tank and let it go spray all the poison ivy and invasive honeysuckle for me. Doesn't need to gimbal like a turret -- just generally give it a fixed-aim that's roughly at the center of the camera vision and let the bot put pest plants roughly in its center-of-view and activate the sprayer for a second or two, mark the spot as sprayed, and move on to the next one.

Could test it with plain water and logging the plants that it chose to spray first as a review step before loading it with actual weed-killer.

I don't need complicated end-effectors that can fold my laundry -- just a simple weed-wacker motor or squirt gun would be enough for me to call this thing 1000% useful. Like a Roomba, but outdoors.

There are a handful of open-source farm bots built on traditional platforms with traditional robotics stacks, but there's something attractive to me about the plug-and-play nature of something like OpenClaw + Robostral (along with the extensibility that self-modifying agentic systems have to offer).

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Post by vga1 »

dylan604 wrote: post #68
vga1 wrote: post #59

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Please oh please try to make Kärcher adopt your stuff. Even their latest premium cleaning bots are hopeless when they don't know where they are, even when I tell them where they are. Or, I don't know, make your own vacuums.

I have no hope for this working. I recently bought a dumb meatbag operated vacuum after tiring of the robot's issues. The constant getting stuck in places drove me crazy. After getting a new vac, I used it in a place where the robot had just "cleaned" that morning. According to the new collector's contents, the robot sucked at its job of sucking.

The sad part is that my previous robot (iRobot model from 3 years ago) was better at this.

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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Post by dylan604 »

vga1 wrote: post #115
dylan604 wrote: post #68

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I have no hope for this working. I recently bought a dumb meatbag operated vacuum after tiring of the robot's issues. The constant getting stuck in places drove me crazy. After getting a new vac, I used it in a place where the robot had just "cleaned" that morning. According to the new collector's contents, the robot sucked at its job of sucking.

The sad part is that my previous robot (iRobot model from 3 years ago) was better at this.

Mine worked pretty well as well and slightly improved after an update, but has gotten dumber over the years. Not only does it get lost, but it physically gets stuck under things that it did not used to get stuck under.

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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Post by bee_rider »

adrianN wrote: post #104
bee_rider wrote: post #83

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This is Mistral though. I assume the model can be run locally.

That would be a rather expensive robot vacuum.

True. But it would probably take a couple years to get spin up a new hardware product line anyway; by then local inference will probably be cheaper, right?
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