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Re: The Commodore Callback 8020 smart flip phone

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I bought one of their C64 repros, it was exactly what I want, I was searching ebay for original Apple ][e at the time anyway. Why? It's going to be my kids first computer. Computers today are so absolutely hostile as they are simply attention-sucking sale-terminals. They spend all their time popping up unwanted notifications which are just advertising. And the interface of modern devices is actually horrible for lear…

Good luck, I mean that. Times have changed, my kids simply aren't interested in the things I was growing up, so as parents we decided not to force them but rather to positively reinforce whatever it is they want to do. That's not to say they can do whatever they want, of course, but they lead the direction.

Commodore's CEO said in the press release about this phone that he wanted it because he, himself, had become addicted to his smartphone, so he switched to a dumbphone "And my two year-old daughter doesn’t see me staring at something she doesn’t understand for half of the day."

Not to sound overly flippant about it, but that sounds like a "him" problem, not a phone problem? He clearly doesn't see it that way. Instead he's decided that his inability to personally cultivate a healthy relationship to current technology represents a flaw in the technology itself, so we should regress it. Kind of, "Am I so out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong." vibes.

I'm not a father, so I can't speak with authority, but it seems to me the appropriate approach (given technology's advances will not stop) is to nurture the skills in children that help them navigate the waters, not to drain the sea.

Re: The Commodore Callback 8020 smart flip phone

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That unihertz "Jelly Star" with it's small size and rounded corners looks like a good prison phone choice, but still a bit of a "stretch".

Three inches! Even the greenest punk should be able to bend over and take it. https://www.unihertz.com/products/jelly-star

nothing funnier than male rape, is there?

Re: The Commodore Callback 8020 smart flip phone

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There aren't any merits to talk about. A flip phone is still a nostalgia play. If someone is nostalgic about flip phones, they're nostalgic about a Nokia, Commodore was long gone by the era of flip phones. And, you can still buy flip phones from a variety of manufacturers, including Nokia, for under $100. A dumb phone, including from reputable manufacturers, is extremely easy and cheap to come by, if that's what you…

> There aren't any merits to talk about. A flip phone is still a nostalgia play. Not to everybody. In my country we have a sizeable religious community which eschew the smartphone. Dumb phones sell here very well - on merit alone, no nostalgia.

And, there's no shortage of those. Do those religious folks often buy luxury products?

Re: The Commodore Callback 8020 smart flip phone

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So "Commodore" as in that YouTuber who bought Commodore although initially he was just asking for the right to make a new C64 case (and the company owning Commodore suggested he could maybe buy the whole thing, instead of just asking for the rights to produce a case)?

Why not: at least it looks like Commodore is in the hand of people who appreciate the brand.

Re: The Commodore Callback 8020 smart flip phone

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I have no idea who the customer is for this product. I bought a C64U. I bought a MEGA65. I bought the T-shirt. I own nearly every original Commodore 8-bit. If anybody is the target market for Commodore products, I am the target market, and I am no more nostalgic about or interested in flip phones than I am about fax machines. It's just like the good old days: Commodore execs shipping absurdly misguided products for t…

>I have no idea who the customer is for this product.

Everyone who despises Google, Apple and all of the social media companies and wants absolutely no part of them. I'm going to buy one, along with several other people I know. The only thing that has prevented me from going full flip-phone so far is the lack of support for maps and QR scanning (which is unfortunately required if you want to park in some places or engage in certain activities).

As far as the cost goes, I shelled out $500 for an Android/Google phone that I don't like. That being the case, why would shelling out the same amount of money for a phone that isn't tied to one of the toxic tech companies be prohibitive?

Back in the day, I wasn't a fan of Commodore and didn't even own one! I was an Atari 8-bit guy. Hopefully they will cash in and release a similar phone stripped-down phone next year!

Re: The Commodore Callback 8020 smart flip phone

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Three inches! Even the greenest punk should be able to bend over and take it. https://www.unihertz.com/products/jelly-star

nothing funnier than male rape, is there?

if this ran graphene, i'd buy one today.

Re: The Commodore Callback 8020 smart flip phone

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Regarding the price: the reality with all these alternative phones (e.g. the clicks communicator) is that you are going to have to pay a premium to make them worthwhile for the manufacturers. Scale (and the spyware economy) are what allow the larger companies to produce cheaper "better" phones, so comparing a phone like this with them on price isn't super productive. If you want something different than what the mass…

I can buy a 10$ new flip phone right now from Shenzhen, pay for an order of 1000 pieces and you can put your own logo on it…cough…commodore …cough

That runs in north america? Maybe for $40

Re: The Commodore Callback 8020 smart flip phone

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Look at the Keyphone ($399), Minimal Phone ($399), Zinwa Q25 ($420), Unnecto Snap ($69), and HIT K1 ($349), all via Jose Briones's dumbphone finder. https://www.dumbphones.org/ > The other way to go is with an ultra-small laptop (typically 12--13"), a tablet with integrated keyboard, or a (usually DIY) cyberdeck.

> ultra-small laptop (typically 12--13") Gpd makes smaller machines than that. https://gpdstore.net/gpd-pocket-4/

Thanks!

This is a 9" (well, 8.8") device (display).

Though it looks as if there starts to be a price premium. I'll grant that the specs are impressive.

Re: The Commodore Callback 8020 smart flip phone

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eSIMs can't be swapped by design to increase lock-in. That's why I never buy a phone that requires an eSIM or use a carrier that only issues an eSIM.

Why downvote this?

> eSIMs ... design[ed] to increase lock-in.

Probably because you're assuming facts not in evidence. I'm not doubting you, but please provide a source for such an assertion.

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