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Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by pokstad »

snowe2010 wrote: post #85
w10-1 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before, the emails were "me@icloud.com", the default for all apple users. There was no way to distinguish normal emails from generated private emails. Now, they will be "blah@private.icloud.com", so it will be easy to ban the generated/private email that reduces the ability to associate logins across services. Unclear why Apple would shoot themselves in this way; I hope it's not Ternus complying with anti-privacy.

But it’s not? Like if they block that subdomain, they will completely block Sign in with Apple.

You can use Hide My Email independently from Sign in with Apple.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by fg137 »

jonotime wrote: post #82

Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.

Doesn't work when some service providers only allow email addresses that are on a whitelist of domains. And I have run into more than a few.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by jedberg »

jonotime wrote: post #82

Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.

I’ve been doing this for years. It works fine and it’s fun to see who is selling your email.

But keep good records!!

It gets really awkward when you’re trying to recover an account and can’t remember what custom email you used.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by cube00 »

shoo_pl wrote: post #108
jonotime wrote: post #82

Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.

The problem is if someone figures it out and starts sending you spam to {random}@domain.tld. That's when you will need to sit down and start creating actual aliases for all those used email addresses and stop the catch-all forwarding:) Also, another downside is that you will loose privacy by using your own domain. And the lack of privacy makes targeted scam/phishing more likely, and targeted scam is the one we are mo…

I've found using a subdomain helps with that, spammers will try everything@domain.tld but won't bother trying to brute force subdomains.

However be warned some surprisingly large websites don't support subdomains, for example eBay will silently send user@sub.domain.tld to user@domain.tld and you'll only figure it out by looking at your server logs for rejected mail.

In those cases I have to specifically alias that username@domain.tld to the subdomain.

With this new Apple privacy subdomain maybe eBay will finally fix this.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by fg137 »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #3

If your website will block me out because I used a privacy friendly email, I want nothing to do with your website.

Didn't really have a choice with openrouter. I ended up using "Hide My Email" which gave me an icloud.com, which will likely no longer work according to this article.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by kstrauser »

cube00 wrote: post #102
switz wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do this. The awkward thing is when I am in person or on the phone and have to explain that my customer email address is [their_business_name]@my_weird_domain.tld But the people usually just nod along. The other downside is that it's forward-in only, wish I could proxy responses without setting up a whole new inbox (and outbox).

> The only awkward thing is when I am in person or on the phone and have to explain that my customer email address I had one small business aggressively threaten me that they fully owned their business name and I wasn't allowed to use it in my email address. My solution was to keep my wonderful aliases and dump them. If a business is concerned but nice about it I'll offer an alternative such as plumber@ > The other d…

"Sorry for the misunderstanding. My new email is yourcompanysucksinmyopinion@example.com."

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by theshackleford »

LordDragonfang wrote: post #77
c7b wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't mind trusting another company with forwarding your emails, it's definitely less hassle to set up an equivalent service for yourself.

If you mean "set up an equivalent service" under your own domain, that's both less private and more likely to be blocked; there are a lot of services which, unfortunately, only allow sign-ups from big, well-known domains.

I mean none of this is accurate, but sure.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by LoganDark »

jonotime wrote: post #82

Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.

Services like DeepSeek have an email domain whitelist rather than blacklist. So creating your own domain just guarantees a lockout

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by LoganDark »

snowe2010 wrote: post #90
9dev wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because many sites check the domain part of your email address against a blocklist, which contains entries like trashmail.com to prevent users from signing up with ad-hoc throwaway accounts. They don't want that, because they'd like to get a proper lead they can either track, sell, or reach out to. Now Hide My Email allowed you to do just that: Create an account with an email that wasn't tied to your identity, and th…

But that will completely break Sign in with Apple, which no service is ever going to do. I really don’t get the problem here.

Most services would never support Sign in with Apple anyway. Honestly most services don't even support social sign-in at all
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