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"Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by smallpipe »

jimbo808 wrote: post #37
tombert wrote: post #9

I have no doubt that the writer is better at translating than AI, but I have to say that AI translation has gotten so good that I'm not sure how much longer translation work will be there, or rather it might end up being more about auditing. For example, I just read the Lawrence Ellsworth translation of The Three Musketeers, which I very thoroughly enjoyed. I don't speak or read French, but from my understanding Ells…

LLMs are now being aggressively manipulated for propaganda purposes. Powerful people have realized that people believe LLMs, and treat them as authoritative sources of fact. The number of lies, lies by omission, deceptive distortions, and fallacious argument tactics they generate is absurd, and increasing rapidly. Translation, when done as a service you are paid for, can't be relied on by propaganda bots.

Do you have examples?

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by theendisney »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #76
xp84 wrote: post #45

The ending is a really powerful point. Most people apparently agree on two things: 1. AI is a great boon for all tasks and specialties we don’t have the skills to do ourselves. Understandable, since (A) we’re ill equipped to see the flaws in its output because it isn’t our area of expertise, and (B) it often can unlock great gains because if we trust it, we then don’t have to pay and wait for humans to do that thing.…

Well said. Everyone agrees AI can't do their job, so it ends up doing everyone else's. I'm not sure how to formulate it yet but it seems there is some Peter Principle/Gell-Mann Effect corollary that is AI-related we can say here. Perhaps: "AI rises to the level of its users' incompetence." Or: "Confidence in AI output is inversely proportional to one's ability to verify it"

>Well said. Everyone agrees AI can't do their job, so it ends up doing everyone else's.

Its like basic income, everyone will stop working except from you.

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by analogpixel »

analogpixel wrote: post #24

All I got out of this article is that he should have went home and dumped it into chatgpt just to see what happened; then if it did as good a job as him, he should start looking for other places he can add value that AI can't.

The point of the comment was that models are improving a lot every release, so if your livelihood depends on something, you might want to check to see what the latest models are capable of before someone else (like your employer ) tells you.

The other person in the gym was right, did you you just dump it in the latest model?

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by [deleted] »

allknowingfrog wrote: post #67
TekMol wrote: post #57

AI isn’t replacing me. Like a toddler, it needs to be constantly coached. Like a toddler, it will grow up. Humans are really bad at noticing trajectories. They see the current situation. They know what the situation was 5 years ago. But for some reason they do not believe that there is a trajectory. They view the present state as the final destination.

Sure, just like AI enthusiasts seem to be unfamiliar with the concept of local maxima...

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Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by analogpixel »

xboxnolifes wrote: post #103
int3trap wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article does not say that. The author doesn't take the text the other person dumped into ChatGPT and evaluate its quality. That is what OP is referring to.

The article clearly implies she has tried so previously.

when someone says they have tried previously that makes me think once long ago when they first came out. If your employment could be replaced by this, I'd be testing all new models to see where they stand.

Just because you don't want to use AI/LLM to translate, that won't stop someone else who will, and they will end up doing it cheaper and faster (maybe not better, but most people don't really care about quality too much anymore.)

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by km3r »

> Should you pay your roofer less because he uses a hammer instead of his bare hands?

Yes. Effective tools increase the supply of roofs made. More supply means lower prices per roof. But because the same number of roofs need to get worked on, the increase in roofs per roofer means less roofers will be needed.

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by Aurornis »

xp84 wrote: post #45

The ending is a really powerful point. Most people apparently agree on two things: 1. AI is a great boon for all tasks and specialties we don’t have the skills to do ourselves. Understandable, since (A) we’re ill equipped to see the flaws in its output because it isn’t our area of expertise, and (B) it often can unlock great gains because if we trust it, we then don’t have to pay and wait for humans to do that thing.…

> This is why I use AI for all my medical questions and doctors use AI to write software, and we both smirk at the quality the other person is getting from it.

There is an interesting third group emerging: People who acknowledge the quality problem, but think they can deal with it by applying more AI to the output.

This takes the form of people who spin up a lot of "agents" and give them personalities like security director or quality director (which are unnecessarily complex and maddeningly unpredictable ways to trigger an LLM session for doing a security review or a quality check pass).

It also includes the person who knows that their app is full of bugs, but thinks it's not a problem because they can have the AI fix the bugs as they show up. People in this class haven't encountered security breaches or data loss bugs yet. They think it's all about having Claude fix that div that isn't centered or handle that error code that shows up some times.

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by bluefirebrand »

tombert wrote: post #98
zuzululu wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so what is software developer doing if writing code is not part of their job I don't see how not writing code is being offered as a moat, it seems like that is just translating business/stakeholder requirements to architecture/biz processes which is exactly the type of low hanging fruit that AI will capture first or was it your point that the position sits closer to the stakeholders (relatively compared to those lift…

If you get to senior level then most of your job probably is not writing code, but planning things out. The code is largely an implementation detail. At least that's how it was for me, maybe other peoples' careers are different.

Yes, my career has been different. At my workplaces seniors still have to code because they dont want to hire juniors

The "planning things out" has moved to another layer, called "architects"

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