We are close to treating PTSD of people who we sent to massacre other people, and we justified their massacre as heroic act. Great achievement for humanity!
It's not just veterans who have PTSD.
Trials on veterans suggest ibogaine could provide a new treatment for PTSD
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#112Ibogaine may or may not work. Iocane powder usually effects a complete cure.
Iocaine powder is a fictional, odorless, and tasteless poison from The Princess Bride.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's strange how much attention novel psychedelic treatments get compared with older, less glamorous interventions that already help a lot of people
Yeah, super weird how people want to get away from the "less glamorous" intervention of deliberate brain damage.
Exactly. Just like paracetamol and autism. Like that's a difficult decision, duh.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nope - I mean PTSD. there is a growing body of evidence that PTSD may be caused (In many of most or the diagnosed cases) by concussions causing brain damage. This manifests from either enemy munitions, or the shock wave from your own artillery, explosives, or large-caliber weapons. The WWI name of "shell shock" describing the same phenomenon was probably more accurate than "PTSD".
What in the world are you talking about? There are 0 requirements for head trauma with PTSD, it's a stress response. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is the top tier, evidence based treatment for PTSD. 60-80% can actually lose their PTSD diagnosis through CBT in some studies. I'm not saying CBT is the magic cure, but it's very helpful for retraining the body's fight or flight response. For TBI, there is not really any am…
I think what they're claiming is that head trauma contributes to PTSD in veterans? (They seem to be ignoring that PTSD occurs outside of military contexts, too.)
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#115> Some research suggests that chemistry is all that is needed – that the intense psychedelic experiences may not even be necessary for ibogaine's healing effects.
> [...] Building on such research, some startups are working on drugs that mimic therapeutic effects without the hallucinations.
I understand not everyone wants the hallucinations, but man, scientists are just no fun sometimes.
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#116Re: Trials on veterans suggest ibogaine could provide a new treatment for PTSD
#117It seems strange to me to choose ibogaine when Salvia divinorum seems like it has a similar psychological experience without the physical heart risk.
Saliva divinorum is inherently dysphoric due to its agonism of the kappa opiod receptor. For a different cheap legal drug that affects serotonin and the NMDA receptors like ibogaine does, there's always off label use of dextromethorphan (cough medicine)!
Isn't DXM terribly neurotoxic at those doses?
Re: Trials on veterans suggest ibogaine could provide a new treatment for PTSD
#118We are close to treating PTSD of people who we sent to massacre other people, and we justified their massacre as heroic act. Great achievement for humanity!
Or it can be: people who went to protect us, and as it's an act which often requires serious sacrifice we praise them. And in any case treating PTSD is good in general.
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Re: Trials on veterans suggest ibogaine could provide a new treatment for PTSD
#120We are close to treating PTSD of people who we sent to massacre other people, and we justified their massacre as heroic act. Great achievement for humanity!
Or it can be: people who went to protect us, and as it's an act which often requires serious sacrifice we praise them. And in any case treating PTSD is good in general.
Ah the old “The bombing of brown/asian people is to PROTECT us” chestnut!