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New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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Post by bravoetch »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #61
periodjet wrote: post #33

Banksy is the patron saint of the “I’m 13 and this is deep” mentality.

He's also king of the "I'll criticize the west but I'll turn a blind-eye to non-democratic countries' wrongdoings" . A trait shared with virtually all intellectuals and artists in the west. There are fights worth fighting: for example there are 300 million women alive who have undergone forced genital mutilation. 300 million ain't cheap change. There are also hundreds of millions of people who applauded the killing o…

Are you making art to fill that perceived gap, or just lodging your objection to people doing their own thing? No artist owes you a curriculum of your design.

Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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Post by Simulacra »

metalman wrote: post #3

Statue of a man in a suit walking off a precipice while blinding himself with the flag he is carrying. https://banksy.co.uk/index.html

I can't get over the flag itself… It's a black flag. Not a British flag, not a white flag,… A BLACK flag.

Historically, the black flag is strongly associated with anarchism, anti-state politics, revolt, and rejection of national authority.

Had he colored it in the union jack, then I would've said it was nationalism, and the person is blinded by nationalism.

But. This is Banksy, black-and-white Banksy, so there may be no symbolism behind the black flag, but it's just very interesting. I can't accept that he would not have considered the color of the flag.

Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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Post by lucketone »

MattGaiser wrote: post #74
miketery wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why nationalism? A flag can represent more than a nation. Can be blinded by any "flag" / ideology.

Flags overwhelmingly represent nations, groups considering themselves nations, that were nations or have some kind of individual governmental status.

Nations != governments.

“Nations” as synonym for country started appearing only recently, in last two/three hundred years.

Flags have thousands of years of history.

Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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Post by t-3 »

lukan wrote: post #96
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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So ... Hamas does not want to do ethnic cleansing and attempted that a couple of times, but simply were not as powerful to have a bigger impact?

Resistance to illegal occupation and colonization isn't ethnic cleansing, it's a legal right as ruled by every international body since Israel was formed. Totally false equivalence.

Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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Post by CPLX »

haunter wrote: post #81

He definitely got a permit for that which makes the whole thing even more laughable

There's no definitely about that at all. The city of Westminster issued a statement that seems fairly clear that they were as surprised as everybody else but are taking steps to protect it.

Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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Post by peteri »

gib444 wrote: post #21
tommica wrote: post #10

Yeah, definetly had the city agree to it, no way in hell to sneak a statue like that without the cops getting involved.

Agreed. Also why it's totally inoffensive (Though it's not in /the/ City of London. That wouldn't happen in a million years! City of Westminster is way more culturally flexible)

I dunno they were flexible with the Piranha art work displaying it in the guildhall temporarily.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2qz89nk11o

Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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Post by EGreg »

morkalork wrote: post #70
tene80i wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure we think of Banksy as being particularly subtle. Innovative and impactful, sure - but the message is usually quite clear, no?

It's always been about as subtle as a sledge hammer

He started with literally graffiti. So sure - not subtle!!
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