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> It’s very economically harmful to be disconnected. That’s the downside I mean, sure. But then being at war is also economically harmful. :)
> But then being at war is also economically harmful. Especially being at war with practically all the countries around you.
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> I don’t see any alternative angle though I see it, and hadn't fully considered it. Turning off the Internet has more utility than just suppressing the populaces ability to communicate, it also blackholes that compromised mail server used to track the movement of political leaders, any online drop-boxes/Telegram/Whatsapp channels used by cultivated informants/spies are now out of order.
From my point of view, they can't even "just turn on the Internet", even if they wanted. We know from the Ukraine side that "keeping the internet on" requires a whole bunch of personal sacrifice, and a lot of "reasonably recent" electronic equipment and infrastructure that Iran can't simply buy or repair right now.
Perhaps you are underestimating the resources available to a country of 90 million. You could play a game where you estimate the number of routers and switches outside of Tehran under a hypothetical where the the capital was leveled. I don't know how many universities Iran has, but my working assumption is that any one Computer Science department from a D-Tier university is equal to the task, if the physical carrier medium for the Internet is still present and they are bringing their ancient half-rack of equipment.
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> But then being at war is also economically harmful. Especially being at war with practically all the countries around you.
Unless you have the backing of a much larger economic power with virtually guaranteed funding and equipment.
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It's scary that your 1-minute old comment got insta-downvoted.
It isn't scary it's obvious. Majority of people on HN are american. Obviously the government would want to control the narrative here.
They drank the kool aid entirely, 50+ years ago and the government has been coasting on that American moral superiority ever since.
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Are these Iranian friends and their children the ones at risk the next time the US or Israel "accidentally" double taps civilian infrastructure? The regime will kill you/your loved ones and brand them as criminals if you protest against them or break an unreasonable law, the US and Israel will kill you and brand you as terrorists because you happened to be Iranian and in the wrong place.
My family in Tehran fear the bombs but support the US continuing to do so. I think the bombing campaign needs to end, so I disagree with them on that. Based on what little we know coming out of Tehran (we only get a few min of landline phone calls from Tehran once a week), the issue is splitting families due to the mental strain it's having. That being said, the overall feeling is very much still pro-US. I think peop…
Iranian here.. no, we're not celebrating US bombing our children. People are very united right now, the war is for the survival of IRAN. Our plight with IRGC is set aside to defeat the invaders attempting to take our home land.
I'm not sure how you can both claim "you support the bombing of your family in Tehran" but also claim "the campaign needs to end".
For reference, my own cousin was taken to Evin prison for 6 months after the Mahsa uprising and after she was released, she had to be hospitalized for a year. She will never leave a normal life again. So I have NO LOVE for IRGC.
But no, I am not going to "cheer" for US and Israel for bombing Isfahan, Shiraz and destroy our Shah Cheragh.
We have 90M people in our home and we can figure things out among ourselves, just like have done so since the dawn of the Achaemenids.
P.S I hope your family is safe.
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My family in Tehran fear the bombs but support the US continuing to do so. I think the bombing campaign needs to end, so I disagree with them on that. Based on what little we know coming out of Tehran (we only get a few min of landline phone calls from Tehran once a week), the issue is splitting families due to the mental strain it's having. That being said, the overall feeling is very much still pro-US. I think peop…
> My family in Tehran fear the bombs but support the US continuing to do so > I think people outside of Iran/Iranians vastly underestimate the disdain for the Iranian regime. Iranian here.. no, we're not celebrating US bombing our children. People are very united right now, the war is for the survival of IRAN. Our plight with IRGC is set aside to defeat the invaders attempting to take our home land. I'm not sure how…
Apparently there have been IRGC and basij curfew patrols shooting at buildings / windows of people who sing or shout anti regime songs and slogans. Apparently they are also (at least in some cases) dressing as women to avoid airstrikes. There has been very little photage and info coming out of Iran though. I still believe the Iranian government is more afraid of it's people than of the US and Israel - the US and Isra…
> Apparently they are also (at least in some cases) dressing as women to avoid airstrikes Didn't help anybody in Minab.
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> No? Lost a loved one / a friend / a classmate? Perhaps when people see this (as I have) Sorry to hear that. Are you currently in Iran now? Or have contact with people in Iran?
I do live in Iran.
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You think the French monarchy was overthrown because they didn't try hard enough? It's blood against blood, but it's quite rare for people to rise up while there's an external enemy. Russia 1917 is the only example I can think of?
"You think the French monarchy was overthrown because they didn't try hard enough?" Yes, actually I do. Are you aware how long the process of transformation was and how little actual violence did the royal troops mete out? Most of the blood during the French Revolution was shed among the revolutionaries themselves, later. Not by the old regime which barely resisted what was happening, being confused more than anythin…
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It's very easy to offer the lives of others for your goals.
In fairness, the claim is that all the Iranians are offering their own lives for the poster's goals. Of course, that only brings us to, "It's easy to claim others are offering their lives for your goals." I guess it's probably best to just realize everything you see on the subject of any given war is probably propaganda. And judge the value of it through that lens.