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Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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Bullshit. The only people worried are the ones that were already concerned and never bought a Ring. I guarantee the vast majority of people LOVE this new feature.

"I guarantee the vast majority of people LOVE this new feature." And you base this guarantee on?

Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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2a. Many of the "illegal" immigrants are, in fact, legal. 4. immigration status is a civil matter, not a criminal matter.

Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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Pulled from IMDB, Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox voices the consternation perfectly: > Batman: [seeing the wall of monitors for the first time at the Applied Sciences division in Wayne Enterprises] Beautiful, isn't it? > Lucius Fox: Beautiful... unethical... dangerous. You've turned every cellphone in Gotham into a microphone. > Batman: And a high-frequency generator-receiver. > Lucius Fox: You took my sonar concept an…

Lmao did they really say it's null-key encrypted? Unfortunately a very realistic depiction of how many of the brands advertising their security the strongest often have the most ridiculously broken security (flock)

The Nolan Batman movies are absolutely risible in retrospect. It's hard to believe how seriously everyone took them back then.

Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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I thought Ring was already sending data to law enforcement agencies (that paid Amazon for it). Also, I thought the EULA included language that basically said, "All your data are belong to us", so they could already do whatever surveillance they want.

Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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It's hard to not become disillusioned with our industry when most of it is just the manifesting of that Torment Nexus tweet. It's like no one in the tech world actually understands any piece of fiction that they have ever consumed.

I've had a startling number of conversations exactly like this: "Oh, you read as well? What do your read?" "[this book], [that book]" "Those are all non-fiction, any fiction?" "I don't read fiction. If I'm not going to learn anything, it's a waste of time." "..."

Oh man, have I gotten to read a lot of history recently.

And also fiction.

Frequently at the same time.

Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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Pulled from IMDB, Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox voices the consternation perfectly: > Batman: [seeing the wall of monitors for the first time at the Applied Sciences division in Wayne Enterprises] Beautiful, isn't it? > Lucius Fox: Beautiful... unethical... dangerous. You've turned every cellphone in Gotham into a microphone. > Batman: And a high-frequency generator-receiver. > Lucius Fox: You took my sonar concept an…

Lmao did they really say it's null-key encrypted? Unfortunately a very realistic depiction of how many of the brands advertising their security the strongest often have the most ridiculously broken security (flock)

Lmao did they really say it's null-key encrypted?

You know movies aren't real life, don't you?

Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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That has always been the question. Are you willing to be constantly surveilled for marginally more security?

Me, absolutely not. Unfortunately, my opinion seems to be increasingly in the minority and more and more people will happily be surveilled for even just an illusory promise of safety.

The harsh truth is that safety/security can never be guaranteed. No amount of surveillance will 100% prevent any individual from being a victim of a crime. Surveillance might help catching the criminal to face justice afterwards, but it will never 100% prevent.

Because of that, and because of the potential for abuse, it is better to not be under constant surveillance than it is to give up your rights and privacy for no guarantees.

Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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This is a bit orthogonal to the article, but Christopher Nolan gives me the willies. Almost all his films have this kind authoritarian apologia in them.

To be fair that's more than a little bit present in most superhero media.

The whole idea about any superhero media is a special dude going on a violent spree because the authorities (in their eyes) can't do their job properly. The whole concept is anti-government and society as a whole.

Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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That has always been the question. Are you willing to be constantly surveilled for marginally more security?

If it leads to a high-trust society, yes. (e.g., see Singapore)
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