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Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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A Pc that requires every dev register their blood type with Google? where do i sign up /s edit: for all the iOS/MacOS whataboutists, i don't own any Apple devices for the same reasons, so not sure what point you are trying to make.

Isnt that how it work on iOS as well?

So what? That's why we don't buy Apple products and never have.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

#112
post #54

One of those things that makes so much sense it’s a wonder it didn’t happen sooner.

No thanks! It makes sense for them, not for us. Their rent seeking behavior, locking down of the OS and hardware and their hostility towards the FOSS mod community and users have all worsened lately. The only reason why they ever revisit such 'features' is a massive backlash from the community. Then again, history has shown that they try to smuggle them back in some other form.

Desktop and laptop are the last standing bastions of user modifiability and general purpose computing. The situation on smartphones is so desparate that I type this message on a half-crippled Android installation, hopelessly wishing that it was Linux in here instead. I don't mind sacrifing some convenience and functionality for a while while the devs figure out how to iron out the shortfalls of Linux on smartphones. I absolutely don't want to concede that same ground on desktops and laptops. We deserve at least some devices that we can experiment and modify to our liking.

I know that if the trillion dollar corporation is out for it, they will force it down the throats of naive people or those who don't know any better. Soon afterwards, the rest of us will have two options - a dwindling supply of heavily modified and refurbished used configurable systems, or locked down, dumbed down machines with arbitrary restrictions like everyone else. At least until then, I believe that it's well worth resisting the invasion of freedoms for as long as we can.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

#113

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The point of open source is I don't have to trust the person who wrote it

It works well for you.. but for average person. No. As a 20 year old linux user, I do often use ChromeOS or ChromeOSflex. Just works. Beautiful UI. No more pain with webcam or wifi drivers - Yes, these have improved by still one has the pain of dropped packets (realtek wifi) etc. guaranteed 10 hour battery life. With ChromeOS I just get 4 or 5 second - update - immutable OS. Fedora Silverblue is coming up but still n…

Congrats, you are trading freedom for some convenience.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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So secure it locks the owners out.

If I forget my LUKS passphrase no power on heaven or earth can recover my data

That's sort of the point of LUKS, and it's self-inflicted and your own choice because you didn't back up the key.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Where? I don't see any other than the nagging to update settings after larger updates (couple times a year).

The installer has 3 free trials in it (photos sync, xbox, office 365), and then re-runs that part of the installer periodically. The start menu shows sponsored articles in it IIRC, although this was something I turned off as soon as I could. It also pushes apps like Candy Crush. The lock screen has ads literally "dotted" around, again pushing cloud services etc. I keep being prompted to turn on Copilot, and essential…

I made my usb install media with Rufus and I it had some option to remove a bunch of frustrating behavior (this option was on by default). For instance it allowed me to create a local account. That seems to have completely removed advertising you mentioned. I had a lot of it in windows 10. Maybe the person you are replying to used Rufus (which is recommended if you want to make the install media from Linux or Mac) and didn’t realize it made changes.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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It's pretty openly known that GNOME is hostile to its own userbase and their preferences,, why continue to use it instead of KDE or any of the other 10 DE environments?

I don't want extensible software. KDE is terrible in that regards. They have miriads of options, that's too much for me. I want opinionated software. I don't like GNOME, but it's the lesser evil and I learned to deal with its issues. Also I don't like that KDE does not have its native launcher. I need to install some SDDE stuff which works under Xorg or something like that and looks ugly. Pretty weird stuff all that.…

Lots of opinions that are less than idea in gnome. But the only one that really breaks me is lack of typeahead in Nautilus.

I just want to type D, enter and open Documents/, how hard can it be. It's been almost a decade since they removed it, and I still can't use vanilla Nautilus.

I always end up with Nemo or a patched Nautilus.

rant aside, the rest of gnome seems fine. Don't love it, but also don't hate it. I can add my own shortcuts with rofi/dmenu.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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I don't want extensible software. KDE is terrible in that regards. They have miriads of options, that's too much for me. I want opinionated software. I don't like GNOME, but it's the lesser evil and I learned to deal with its issues. Also I don't like that KDE does not have its native launcher. I need to install some SDDE stuff which works under Xorg or something like that and looks ugly. Pretty weird stuff all that.…

Cinnamon DE (linux mint) is stable, mature and miles ahead of gnome

Cinnamon is probably the best to use right now followed by XFCE because it uses XWayland by default. It provides nearly full use in both directions while still allowing both the new plugins and old widgets systems. It's also surprisingly stable. The only bug I've ever encountered in my now ten years of using it is on an N100 powered laptop, where if I let the computer go to sleep instead of turning it off eventually Cinnamon's process keeps requesting CPU time until it uses an entire core to itself.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Let's be honest, nobody is asking for android based desktops, google just wants to normalize rent seeking 30% of all software sales.

I'm asking for Android-based desktop. Windows is so bad, that I've lost any hope for it to recover. MacOS is not that bad, but it's tied to Apple hardware and I don't like it. Also it's not getting better either, new releases bring more bloat and features I didn't ask for. Linux is what I use, but I also lost hope for it to ever become polished experience. Just recent months they introduced another bug to GNOME which…

Isn’t Valve having a go at making Linux more consumer friendly?

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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post #112
post #54

One of those things that makes so much sense it’s a wonder it didn’t happen sooner.

No thanks! It makes sense for them, not for us. Their rent seeking behavior, locking down of the OS and hardware and their hostility towards the FOSS mod community and users have all worsened lately. The only reason why they ever revisit such 'features' is a massive backlash from the community. Then again, history has shown that they try to smuggle them back in some other form. Desktop and laptop are the last standin…

Thanks, I completely agree with you! It seems that most people here will happily trade their freedom for some convenience by just handing their digital lives to Google though, which to me is crazy, but apparently how the majority thinks.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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I don't think a mega corp having full access to my phone while me not having that is very "secure". Sure it's pretty ok against third parties but in my threat model Google and Apple are also adversaries. Microsoft too by the way. In my model my Linux pc is a lot more secure as there's no adversary having direct access and more control than me.

Do you personally go through every line of source code for your Linux distribution?

That's not the relevant part. The relevant part is, if you find it's doing something you don't want it to be doing, can you read and modify the code that does that?
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