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Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

wkat4242 wrote: post #28
charcircuit wrote: post #14

I'm excited for this as it will allow desktops to get closer to the security of phones.

I don't think a mega corp having full access to my phone while me not having that is very "secure". Sure it's pretty ok against third parties but in my threat model Google and Apple are also adversaries. Microsoft too by the way. In my model my Linux pc is a lot more secure as there's no adversary having direct access and more control than me.

Do you personally go through every line of source code for your Linux distribution?

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Post by Rohansi »

danpalmer wrote: post #61
Ajakks wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's hilarious. I never see ads on my Windows 11 PC.

How!? Mine is full of ads, and that's after buying a "Pro" copy of Windows, registry hacks, declining every ToS I can find, rejecting all the "free" trials, etc. Do you have an enterprise install managed on a Windows domain where your admin has disabled all this stuff by any chance?

Where? I don't see any other than the nagging to update settings after larger updates (couple times a year).

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Post by fragmede »

bandrami wrote: post #41
ptsneves wrote: post #22

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So secure it locks the owners out.

If I forget my LUKS passphrase no power on heaven or earth can recover my data

St. Gabriel, sitting on his cloud, looking at his Nvidia GPU supercomputer (also a cloud) fabbed by God, could totally bruteforce your LUKS key.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Post by potwinkle »

charcircuit wrote: post #14

I'm excited for this as it will allow desktops to get closer to the security of phones.

Security seems like a solved problem on desktop already? Secure Boot + LUKS + SELinux gives anyone a pretty airtight userspace.

Microsoft/Apple have similarly secure set ups for their operating systems. Bitlocker by default (although there is a convenient backdoor for high-paying customers to protect against data loss and for law enforcement forensics) and Apple's Secure Enclave (only broken into by a certain five countries intelligence agencies and for older versions streaming pirates) should protect the average user pretty well.

Is there anything special about Android phones (especially budget ones) that makes them more secure? That's not what I've seen.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Post by atkirtland »

vbezhenar wrote: post #69
malfist wrote: post #45

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Let's be honest, nobody is asking for android based desktops, google just wants to normalize rent seeking 30% of all software sales.

I'm asking for Android-based desktop. Windows is so bad, that I've lost any hope for it to recover. MacOS is not that bad, but it's tied to Apple hardware and I don't like it. Also it's not getting better either, new releases bring more bloat and features I didn't ask for. Linux is what I use, but I also lost hope for it to ever become polished experience. Just recent months they introduced another bug to GNOME which…

What's the GNOME bug?

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Post by vbezhenar »

atkirtland wrote: post #88
vbezhenar wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm asking for Android-based desktop. Windows is so bad, that I've lost any hope for it to recover. MacOS is not that bad, but it's tied to Apple hardware and I don't like it. Also it's not getting better either, new releases bring more bloat and features I didn't ask for. Linux is what I use, but I also lost hope for it to ever become polished experience. Just recent months they introduced another bug to GNOME which…

What's the GNOME bug?

I'm using shortcuts +1 ... +4 to switch between virtual desktops. Let's say there's Xwayland application launched on desktop 1 and I'm on desktop 4. Vscode for example. Now I press +1 to switch to desktop 1. At this point, vscode starts printing "11111111" until I press Esc.

This bug manifests both for vscode and Idea. I configured these apps to run under native wayland, but they're not ready and other bugs manifest (e.g. no border around vscode window), which are less annoying, but annoying nonetheless.

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