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It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Post by thw_9a83c »

conception wrote: post #52
thw_9a83c wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If they can’t be bothered to write it, why should I be bothered to read it? Isn't that the same with AI-generated source code? If lazy programmers didn't bother writing it, why should I bother reading it? I'll ask the AI to understand it and to make the necessary changes. Now, let's repeat this process over and over. I wonder what would be the state of such code over time. We are clearly walking this path.

Why would source code be considered the same as a blog post?

I didn't say the source code is the same as a blog post. I pointed out that we are going to apply the "I don't bother" approach to the source code as well.

Programming languages were originally invented for humans to write and read. Computers don't need them. They are fine with machine code. If we eliminate humans from the coding process, the code could become something that is not targeted for humans. And machines will be fine with that too.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Post by dewey »

mjr00 wrote: post #58
dewey wrote: post #16

> No, don't use it to fix your grammar, or for translations I think that's the best use case and it's not AI related as spell-checkers and translation integrations exist forever, now they are just better. Especially for non-native speakers that work in a globalized market. Why wouldn't they use the tool in their toolbox?

> Especially for non-native speakers that work in a globalized market. Why wouldn't they use the tool in their toolbox? My wife is ESL. She's asked me to review documents such as her resume, emails, etc. It's immediately obvious to me that it's been run through ChatGPT, and I'm sure it's immediately obvious to whomever she's sending the email. While it's a great tool to suggest alternatives and fix grammar mistakes t…

Having a tool at your disposal doesn't mean you don't have to learn how to use it. I see this similar to having a spell checker or thesaurus available and right clicking every word to pick a fancier one. It will also make you sound inauthentic and fake.

These type of complains about LLMs feel like the same ones people probably said about using a typewriter for writing a letter vs. a handwritten one saying it loses intimacy and personality.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Post by YurgenJurgensen »

geerlingguy wrote: post #62
cubefox wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. It's "pick your poison". If your English sounds broken, people will think poorly of your text. And if it sounds like LLM speak, they won't like it either. Not much you can do. (In a limited time frame.)

Lately I have more appreciation for broken English and short, to the point sentences than the 20 paragraph AI bullet point lists with 'proper' formatting. Maybe someone will build an AI model that's succinct and to the point someday. Then I might appreciate the use a little more.

This. AI translations are so accessible now that if you’re going to submit machine-translations, you may as well just write in your native language and let the reader machine translate. That’s at least accurately representing the amount of effort you put in.

I will also take a janky script for a game hand-translated by an ESL indie dev over the ChatGPT House Style 99 times out of 100 if the result is even mostly comprehensible.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Post by latexr »

nbardy wrote: post #46
jihadjihad wrote: post #23

It's similarly insulting to read your AI-generated pull request. If I see another "dart-on-target" emoji... You're telling me I need to use 100% of my brain, reasoning power, and time to go over your code, but you didn't feel the need to hold yourself to the same standard?

You know you can AI review the PR too, don't be such a curmudgeon. I have PR's at work I and coworkers fully AI generated and fully AI review. And

This makes no sense, and it’s absurd anyone thinks it does. If the AI PR were any good, it wouldn’t need review. And if it does need review, why would the AI be trustworthy if it did a poor job the first time?

This is like reviewing your own PRs, it completely defeats the purpose.

And no, using different models doesn’t fix the issue. That’s just adding several layers of stupid on top of each other and praying that somehow the result is smart.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Post by Frotag »

The way I view it is that the author is trying to explain their mental model, but there's only so much you can fit into prose. It's my responsibility to fill in the missing assumptions / understand why X implies Y. And all the little things like consistent word choice, tone, and even the mistakes helps with this. But mix in LLMs and now there's another layer / slightly different mental model I have to isolate, digest, and merge with the author's.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Post by alyxya »

MangoToupe wrote: post #102
alyxya wrote: post #54

I personally don’t think I care if a blog post is AI generated or not. The only thing that matters to me is the content. I use ChatGPT to learn about a variety of different things, so if someone came up with an interesting set of prompts and follow ups and shared a summary of the research ChatGPT did, it could be meaningful content to me. > No, don't use it to fix your grammar, or for translations, or for whatever el…

> I use ChatGPT to learn about a variety of different things Why do you trust the output? Chatbots are so inaccurate you surely must be going out of your way to misinform yourself.

I try to make my best judgment regarding what to trust. It isn’t guaranteed that content written by humans is necessarily correct either. The nice thing about ChatGPT is that I can ask for sources, and sometimes I can rely on that source to fact check.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Post by throwaway-0001 »

For me it’s insulting not to use an AI to reply back. I’d say 90% of people would answer better with an AI assist in most business environments. Maybe even personal.

It’s really funny how many business deals would be better if people would put the requests in an AI to explain what exactly is requested. Most people are not able to answer and if they’d use an AI they could respond in a proper way without wasting everyone’s time. But at least not using an AI shows the competency (or better - incompetence) level.

It’s also sad that I need to tell people to put my message in an AI to don’t ask me useless questions. And AI can fill most of the gaps people don’t get it. You might say my requests are not proper, but then how an AI can figure out what I want to say? I also put my requests in an AI when I can and can create eli5 explanations of the requests “for dummies”

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Post by orbital-decay »

j4yav wrote: post #19
dewey wrote: post #16

> No, don't use it to fix your grammar, or for translations I think that's the best use case and it's not AI related as spell-checkers and translation integrations exist forever, now they are just better. Especially for non-native speakers that work in a globalized market. Why wouldn't they use the tool in their toolbox?

Because it doesn’t just fix your grammar, it makes you sound suspiciously like spam.

No? If you ask it to proofread your stuff, any competent model just fixes your grammar without adding anything on its own. At least that's my experience. Simply don't ask for anything that involves major rewrites, and of course verify the result.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Post by YurgenJurgensen »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #61
icapybara wrote: post #9

If they can’t be bothered to write it, why should I be bothered to read it?

Tired meme. If you can't be bothered to think up an original idea, why bother to post?

2+2 doesn’t suddenly become 5 just because you’re bored of 4.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Post by [deleted] »

yodsanklai wrote: post #81
cubefox wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. It's "pick your poison". If your English sounds broken, people will think poorly of your text. And if it sounds like LLM speak, they won't like it either. Not much you can do. (In a limited time frame.)

LLM are pretty good to fix documents in exactly the way you want. At the very least, you can ask it to fix typos, grammar errors, without changing the tone, structure and content.

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