No "max" or "pro" equivalent? I wanted to get a new Macbook Pro, but there's no obvious successor to the M4 Max available, M5 looks like a step down in performance if anything.
they usually release Pro or Max model later: M4: May 2024 M4 pro/max: Oct 2024 https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/05/apple-introduces-m4-c... https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/10/apple-introduces-m4-p...
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#112Did anyone else notice that the base storage has been upgraded to 512G? I knew this was coming after iPhone 17s storage upgrade!
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is not the first time this has happened in Apple’s history. The transition from the 68k architecture to the PowerPC brought major performance improvements, but Apple’s software didn’t take full advantage of it. If I remember correctly, even after the PowerPC switch, core elements of the classic Mac OS still ran in emulation as late as Mac OS 9. Additionally, the classic Mac OS lacked protected memory and preempt…
Sixteen years ago, John Gruber wrote: > Hardware and software both matter, and Apple’s history shows that there’s a good argument to be made for developing integrated hardware and software. But if you asked me which matters more, I wouldn’t hesitate to say software. All things considered I’d much prefer a PC running Mac OS X to a Mac running Windows. https://daringfireball.net/2009/11/the_os_opportunity At the time I…
these days i'd rather have macbook running windows than macos running on standard windows laptop of the same form factor, purely for the efficiency of apple silicon.
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#114The modern Apple feels like their hardware teams way outperforming the software teams.
Software is very easy to bloat, expand scope, and grow to do more than really needed, or just to release apps that are then forgotten about.
Hardware is naturally limited in scope due to manufacturing costs, and doesn't "grow" in the same way. You replace features and components rather than constantly add to them.
Apple needs someone to come in and aggressively cut scope in the software, removing features and products that are not needed. Pair it down to something manageable and sustainable.
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#115I am wondering if Apple's focus is off lately with this drive for AI. So far all they are showing in that presentation is that I can have "the ability to transform 2D photos into spatial scenes in the Photos app, or generating a Persona — operate with greater speed and efficiency." And by making Apple AI (which is something I do not use for many reasons, but mainly because of Climate Change) their focus, I am afraid…
If you don’t use AI for climate reasons then you should read the recent reports about how little electricity and water is actually used. It’s basically zero (image and video models excluded). Your information about this is probably related to GPT3.5 or something. Which is now 3 years old - a lifetime in AI world.
Don't newer models use more energy? I thought they were getting bigger and more computationally intensive.
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#116M5 Chip currently only avaialble with up to 32 GB of RAM on the 14 inch Macbook pro variant, just FYI.
[1] https://www.apple.com/us-edu/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/14-inc...
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple has always been a hardware company first - think of how they sell consumers computers with the OS for free, while Microsoft primarily just sells the OS (when comparing the consumer business; I don’t want to get into all the other stuff Microsoft does). Now that they own the SoC design pipeline, they’re really able to flex these muscles.
Apple has always been a software first company, and they only sell the hardware as a vehicle to their software. They regularly say this themselves and have always called themselves a software company. Compare their hardware revenues with that of the app store and icloud subscriptions, you will see where they make most of their money. EDIT: I seem to be getting downvoted, so I will just leave this here for people to s…
Tim is the CEO, he's going to say whatever he needs to in the moment to drive investment.
Apple is and always has been a HW company first.
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#118The modern Apple feels like their hardware teams way outperforming the software teams.
It must be observed that the Apple enterprise is, above all else, a purveyor of fine physical contrivances and apparatus.
Furthermore, they do also engage in the traffic and sale of digital programmes wrought by the hands of other, independent artisans.
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#119A unified memory bandwidth of 1,224 gigabits per second is quite impressive.
I was looking at that number and thinking opposite - that's oddly slow at least in context of new apple chip.
Guessing that's their base tier and it'll increase on the higher spec/more mem models.
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#120The modern Apple feels like their hardware teams way outperforming the software teams.
For Vision Pro, software team has been impressive. And arguably outperformed the hardware team.
But this is the exception.