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I think for the past couple of years he lives in France. By force, so it's not very straight to recognize it as a free or not.
He mentions on his recent Lex Fridman podcast episode[1] that he lives in Dubai, U.A.E. He expressed fear about France's actions against him. 1. https://youtu.be/qjPH9njnaVU
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#112"The UK is imprisoning thousands for their tweets." Who?? What's he talking about?
But it's a fairly common far right talking point, and similar claims come up a lot in certain types of anti-Western propaganda. Perhaps Durov could have been influenced by that?
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#113Except they are not. Googling I came across about five, mostly calling for asylum seekers accommodation to be burned down. Arson was actually disapproved of even before twitter.
Durov's home country is murdering thousands in Ukraine though in the hope they they'll bend the knee to the invaders. I think that sort of stuff is more a threat to freedom.
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#114You're the billionaire owner of Telegram. If you cared about these things you'd sell and invest in open standards or making our current standards suck less or be easier to use.
Cry me a river.
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#115Re: I'm turning 41, but I don't feel like celebrating
#116Let's take a second to remember that Pavel Durov is the CEO of a messaging company that doesn't end-to-end encrypt chats by default and does not provide a way to end-to-end encrypt group chats
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#117I share Durov’s disappointment about where the internet is heading. But I think it’s hypocritical to talk about freedom of speech issues in Western Europe while ignoring similar or worse restrictions in China, Russia, or Dubai, where he lives. It’s similar to Musk’s approach — when Twitter is shut down in Brazil, it’s a freedom of speech violation, but having a Tesla factory in China suddenly makes that problem disap…
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#118I share Durov’s disappointment about where the internet is heading. But I think it’s hypocritical to talk about freedom of speech issues in Western Europe while ignoring similar or worse restrictions in China, Russia, or Dubai, where he lives. It’s similar to Musk’s approach — when Twitter is shut down in Brazil, it’s a freedom of speech violation, but having a Tesla factory in China suddenly makes that problem disap…
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#119https://nypost.com/2025/08/19/world-news/uk-free-speech-stru...
There is plenty of evidence -- anyone who saays otherwise tell me and i will provide it unless hn bans me yet again for attempting to spread the truth.
for germany -- look up CJ Hopkins. free speech is a farce in europe and has been for decades.
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What unfree county is that? He certainly doesn't live in Russia if that is what you are alluding to.
Is there a free one?